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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 135

Thursday, October 8, 1998

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Bertrand (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence) laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Chief of the Defence Staff on the state of the Canadian Forces for 1997-98. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-361-14.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0921, 361-0922, 361-0923 and 361-0924 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-60B.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 15th Report of the Committee (Chapter 30 of the Auditor General's Report of December 1997). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-91.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 25 and 40) was tabled.


Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 16th Report of the Committee (Chapter 6 of the Auditor General's Report of April 1998). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-92.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 37 and 40) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), Bill C-55, An Act respecting advertising services supplied by foreign periodical publishers, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Caccia (Davenport), seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough -- Rouge River), Bill C-441, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species in Canada from extirpation or extinction, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Mr. Matthews (Burin -- St. George's), seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), moved, -- That the 1st Report of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans, presented on Monday, March 23, 1998, be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Easter (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), moved, -- That the House do now proceed to the Orders of the Day.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 238)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Drouin -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Mahoney -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 118

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Elley -- Epp -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marceau -- Mark -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solomon -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 94

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alcock -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bevilacqua -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Discepola -- Gallaway -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Lalonde -- Leung -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mifflin -- Normand -- Richardson -- Steckle -- St-Hilaire -- Szabo -- Valeri

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), -- That Bill C- 51, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Health), seconded by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Tobacco Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Health), seconded by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Tobacco Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The debate continued.

WAYS AND MEANS

Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) laid upon the Table, -- Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 13) -- Sessional Paper No. 8570-361-14.

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of this Ways and Means motion.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Health), seconded by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), -- That Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Tobacco Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, by unanimous consent, the vote was deferred until Tuesday, October 20, 1998, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-40, An Act respecting extradition, to amend the Canada Evidence Act, the Criminal Code, the Immigration Act and the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act and to amend and repeal other Acts in consequence.

Mr. Rock (Minister of Health) for Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30, by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Dubé (Madawaska -- Restigouche), seconded by Mr. Power (St. John's West), moved, -- That, in the opinion of the House, the government should overhaul all its programs for young people, in order to evaluate their impact and performance, and in order to ensure that all funds for such programs maximize young people's chances of joining the labour force. (Private Members' Business M-213)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report on the Witness Protection Program to the Solicitor General of Canada by the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police for 1997- 98, pursuant to the Witness Protection Program Act, S.C. 1996, c. 15, s. 16. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-7A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on August 31, 1998, between Canada and the Interim Commissioner of Nunavut, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R. S. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-475M. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act and other Acts in consequence thereof, R.S. 1985, c. 8 (2nd Supp.), s. 30. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-509A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Report of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Public Complaints Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act and other Acts in consequence thereof, R. S. 1985, c. 8 (2nd supp.), s.45.34. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-550A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Reports of the Ministry of the Solicitor General for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-663A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:37 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).