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House of Commons of Canada
35th Parliament, 2nd Session

Journals

No. 020
Monday, March 25, 1996
11:00 a.m.

Prayers

Private Members’ Business

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members’ Business.

Ms. Meredith (Surrey–White Rock–South Langley), seconded by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should amend Part XXIV of the Criminal Code — Dangerous Offenders — to provide:

  1. that where an offender is convicted of
    1. a sexual offence involving a child, or
    2. an offence set out in
      1. section 271 (sexual assault) that has been proceeded with by way of indictment,
      2. section 272 (sexual assault with a weapon, threats to a third party or causing bodily harm), or
      3. section 273 (aggravated sexual assault),

    or an attempt to commit any of these offences, the offender shall, before being sentenced, be examined by two psychiatrists to determine

    1. in the case of sexual offence involving a child, whether the offender is likely to commit or attempt to commit such an offence in the future, and
    2. in the case of an offence referred to in section 271 that has been proceeded with by way of indictment, or section 272 or 273, whether the offender is likely to cause or attempt to cause death, injury or serious psychological harm to another person through a failure in the future to control his or her sexual impulses; and
  2. that where the psychiatrists conclude
    1. in the case of a sexual offence involving a child, that the offender is likely to commit or attempt to commit such an offence in the future, or
    2. in the case of an offence mentioned in section 271 that has been proceeded with by way of indictment, or section 272 or 273, that the offender is likely to cause or attempt to cause death, injury or serious psychological harm to another person through a failure in the future to control his or her sexual impulses,

    the Attorney General of the province in which the offender was tried shall direct that an application be brought to have the offender declared a dangerous offender. (Private Members’ Business M–116)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C–14, An Act to continue the National Transportation Agency as the Canadian Transportation Agency, to consolidate and revise the National Transportation Act, 1987 and the Railway Act and to amend or repeal other Acts as a consequence, as reported by the Standing Committee on Transport with amendments.

And of the motions in Group No. 8 (Motions Nos. 18 and 19).

Group No. 8

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), moved Motion No. 18, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 98, be amended by replacing line 37, on page 42, with the following:

“the Agency, the obtaining of an environmental assessment and compliance with zoning by-laws in the municipalities in any province affected by the railway line.”

Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West–Revelstoke), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), moved Motion No. 19, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 101, be amended by adding after line 19, on page 44, the following:

 
“(5)
The Agency may make regulations requiring railway companies to include in agreements relating to the construction or maintenance of a utility or infrastructure crossing prescribed terms and conditions specified or referred to in the regulations or to make such agreements subject to these prescribed terms and conditions.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 8.

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on division.

Group No. 9

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 22, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 106, be amended in the English version

  1. by replacing line 24, on page 46, with the following:
    “ment, bailment, mortgage or hypothec or as a lessor or”;
  2. by replacing line 31, on page 46, with the following:
    “tions under the security agreement, bailment, mort-”; and
  3. by replacing lines 33 to 35, on page 46, with the following:
    “(b) any event that occurred before or after the scheme was filed and that constitutes a default under the security agreement, bailment, mort-”.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 26, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 133, be amended in the French version, by replacing line 14, on page 61, with the following:

“sur ses lignes — et, le cas échéant, sur des dis-”.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 71, — That Bill C–14, be amended by adding after line 11, on page 94, the following:

“CN Commercialization Act

210.1.
Subsections 3(2) and (3) of the CN Commercialization Act are replaced by the following:
(2)
Nothing in, or done under the authority of, this Act affects the operation of the Competition Act in respect of the acquisition of any interest in CN.”

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 74, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 275.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 75, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 276.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 76, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 278, be amended, by replacing lines 26 to 37, on page 120, with the following:

“278.
If this section comes into force before the day fixed by order under section 24 of the Budget Implementation Act, 1995, then the definition “Agency" in section 2 of the Atlantic Region Freight Assistance Act is replaced by the following:”.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 77, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 279, be amended, by replacing lines 40 to 42, on page 120, and lines 1 to 6, on page 121, with the following:

“279.
If this section comes into force before the day fixed by order under section 25 of the Budget Implementation Act, 1995, then”.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 78, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 280.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 79, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 281.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 80, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 282.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 81, — That Bill C–14, in Part I of Schedule IV, be amended by replacing, on page 135, the following:

“Central Butte M 44.0 Riverhurst (M 110.5) 66.5”.

with the following:

“Central Butte M 44.2 Riverhurst (M 110.5) 66.3”.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 82, — That Bill C–14, in Part II of Schedule IV, be amended by replacing, on page 135, the following:

“Gretna-La Rivière Gretna (M 14.1) Altona (M 21.4) 7.3”.

with the following:

“Gretna-La Rivière Gretna (M 14.1) Altona (M 6.8) 7.3”.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 9.

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 26, 81 and 82 were also agreed to.

The question was put on Motion No. 71 and it was agreed to.

The question was put on Motion No. 74 and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, Motion No. 75 was also agreed to.

The question was put on Motion No. 76 and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, Motion No. 77 was also agreed to.

The question was put on Motion No. 78 and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 79 and 80 were also agreed to.

Group No. 10

Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), moved Motion No. 23, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 112.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved Motion No. 24, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 112, be amended by replacing line 20, on page 49, with the following:

“must be commercially fair and reasonable to all parties.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 10.

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 12

Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Easter (Malpeque), moved Motion No. 56, — That Bill C–14 be amended by adding after line 39, on page 68, the following new clause:

“146.18.
On the coming into force of this Division, sections 268 to 270 of the Railway Act shall apply to the provision of passenger-train services only in the following circumstances:
(a)
the passenger train service have been determined by the Agency to be in the public interest; or
(b)
the Governor in Council has declared a route or segment of a route of Via Rail Canada Inc. to be a protected route.”

Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Easter (Malpeque), moved Motion No. 70, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 185, be amended by replacing line 16, on page 86, with the following:

“(2) Sections 264 to 267, 344, 345 and 358.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 12.

The question was put on Motion No. 56 and it was negatived on division.

Accordingly, Motion No. 70 was also negatived on division.

Group No. 13

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 57, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 147.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 58, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 148.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 59, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 149.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved motion No. 60, — March 19, 1996 — Mr. Guimond (Beauport–Montmorency–Orléans) — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 150.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved motion No. 61, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 151.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved motion No. 62, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 152.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved Motion No. 63, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 153.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved motion No. 64, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 154.

Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), moved motion No. 65, — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 155.

Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), moved Motion No. 66, — That Bill C–14, in Clause 155, be amended by replacing lines 17 to 21, on page 72, with the following:

 
“(2)
The Minister shall lay before the House of Commons a report concerning the review made under subsection (1) within thirty sitting days after the review is completed.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 13.

The question was put on Motion No. 57 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, and 65 was deferred.

Group No. 14

Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), moved Motion No. 67, — That Bill C–14 be amended by adding after line 25, on page 72, the following new Clause:

“155.1.
(1)
After consultation with such participants as the Agency deems appropriate, the Agency shall, on or before March 31, 1997, on the basis of the most recent calendar or crop year for which appropriate costing information is available, complete a review of and determine, for that year, the volume-related variable costs of the railway companies for the movement of grain and the line-related variable costs of the railway companies for grain-dependent branch lines as designated by the Agency pursuant to section 41 of the Western Grain Transportation Act.
(2)
In carrying out the review and making the determination referred to in subsection (1), the Agency shall
(a)
take into account all costs actually incurred that are directly related to the provision of an adequate, reliable and efficient railway transportation system that will meet future requirements for the movement of grain;
(b)
compute the costs of capital and adjust that cost by any amount it deems justified in light of the risks associated with the movement of grain;
(c)
exclude the costs of capital and depreciation in respect of branch line assets provided under the Prairie Branch Line Rehabilitation Program and in respect of railway cars that have not been funded by the railway companies;
(d)
exclude the costs incurred by the railway companies in providing for and holding public meetings referred to in section 56.1 of the Western Grain Transportation Act;
(e)
reduce the additional costs directly attributable to the joint line movement referred to in sections 49 and 50 of that Act by an amount equal to the additional revenues derived by the railway companies pursuant to those sections; and
(f)
reduce the additional costs directly attributable to the acquisition by the railway companies of railway cars for the movement of grain other than box cars or hopper cars by an amount equal to the additional revenues derived by the railway companies pursuant to sections 51 and 52 of that Act.
(3)
The Agency shall, on or before March 31, 1997 and on or before March 31 of every fourth year thereafter, complete a further review and determination of costs in accordance with subsections (1) and (2) on the basis of the most recent calendar or crop year for which appropriate costing information is available.
(4)
In carrying out the review referred to in subsection (1) and further review made pursuant to subsection (3), the Agency shall assess the appropriateness of the level of the contribution to the constant costs of the railway companies referred to in paragraph (b) of the definition ‘estimated eligible costs’ in subsection 34(1) of the Western Grain Transportation Act and make recommendations to the Minister thereon.
(5)
In assessing the appropriateness of the level of the contribution referred to in subsection (4), the Agency shall be guided by the following objectives:
(a)
to ensure that the overall revenues of the railway system are adequate to meet its long-term needs; and
(b)
to ensure that the contribution to constant cost provided by the movement of grain is fair in relation to the contribution provided by other commodities.”

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 14.

The question was put on Motion No. 67 and it was negatived on division.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of C–14, An Act to continue the National Transportation Agency as the Canadian Transportation Agency, to consolidate and revise the National Transportation Act, 1987 and the Railway Act and to amend or repeal other Acts as a consequence, as reported by the the Standing Committee on Transport with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at 6:00 p.m.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Transport of Bill C–20, An Act respecting the commercialization of civil air navigation services.

Pursuant to Standing Order 73(1), Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved, — That the Bill be referred forthwith to the the Standing Committee on Transport.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Statements by Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

  1. Nos. 351-3644 and 351-3729 concerning the unemployment insurance program. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-37A.

Introduction of Private Members’ Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), seconded by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), Bill C–244, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of interest on mortgage loans), was introduced, read the first time and, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mrs. Jennings (Mission–Coquitlam), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), Bill C–245, An Act to amend the Divorce Act (granting of access to, or custody of, a child to a grandparent), was introduced, read the first time and ordered to be printed.

Pursuant to Order made Monday, March 4, 1996, the Bill (previously Bill C–232, 1st Session, 35th Parliament) was deemed to have been read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Campbell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), moved, — That the name of Jim Hart be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

  • by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-0210) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-0211);
  • by Mr. Campbell (St. Paul’s), one concerning the situation in Sri Lanka (No. 352-0212) and one concerning corporal punishment (No. 352-0213).

Government Orders

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C–7, An Act to establish the Department of Public Works and Government Services and to amend and repeal certain Acts.

Ms. Marleau (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.


At 6:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45(7), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage and second reading of C–14, An Act to continue the National Transportation Agency as the Canadian Transportation Agency, to consolidate and revise the National Transportation Act, 1987 and the Railway Act and to amend or repeal other Acts as a consequence as reported by the Standing Committee on Transport with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. de Jong (Regina–Qu’Appelle), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 17 and 18, on page 3, with the following:

“persons, including elderly persons and persons with disabilities,”.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 20)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brien — Charest — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — Duncan — Epp — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Godin — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Jennings — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Manning — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Morrison — Ramsay — Ringma — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Silye — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — Venne — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams --58

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Bélair — Bernier (Beauce) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Gray (Windsor West) — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Marleau — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Milliken — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Robillard — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Simmons — Stewart (Brant) — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Wells — Whelan — Young — Zed --90

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

Accordingly, Motion No. 69 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), seconded by Mr. Charest (Sherbrooke), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 129, be amended by adding after line 41, on page 58, the following:

 
“(3)
For the purposes of sections 129 to 136, the former Canadian Pacific line through Maine shall be deemed to be a route wholly within Canada, and any carrier serving any portion of the line between Saint John (New Brunswick) and Montreal (Quebec) shall be deemed to be a connecting carrier and any place where the line of a railway company connects with such connecting carrier shall be deemed to be an interchange.”

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 21)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Benoit — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Charest — Chatters — Duncan — Epp — Frazer — Gilmour — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Jennings — Manning — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Morrison — Ramsay — Ringma — Schmidt — Silye — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams --37

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Asselin — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Bachand — Barnes — Bélair — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Beauce) — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Brien — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Dalphond-Guiral — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fry — Gaffney — Gagnon (Québec) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Godin — Goodale — Gray (Windsor West) — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lee — Lefebvre — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Marleau — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mercier — Mifflin — Milliken — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Robichaud — Robillard — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Simmons — Stewart (Brant) — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Venne — Wells — Whelan — Young — Zed --112

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. de Jong (Regina–Qu’Appelle), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 6, be amended by adding after line 3, on page 4, the following:

“‘main line’ means a railway line in Canada of a railway company under the legislative authority of Parliament that, relative to all other railway lines within the company’s railway system in Canada, provides the primary means of moving goods from one or more provinces to one or more provinces.”

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 22)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Blaikie --2

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Asselin — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Bachand — Barnes — Bélair — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Bernier (Beauce) — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brien — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Dalphond-Guiral — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finlay — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagnon (Québec) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Gilmour — Godin — Goodale — Gouk — Gray (Windsor West) — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harb — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jennings — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lee — Lefebvre — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Manning — Marleau — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mercier — Meredith — Mifflin — Milliken — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Morrison — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Ringma — Robichaud — Robillard — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Silye — Simmons — Solberg — Speaker — Stewart (Brant) — Stinson — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Venne — Wells — Whelan — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams — Young — Zed --146

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

By unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 29 of Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. de Jong (Regina–Qu’Appelle), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 140, be amended by replacing lines 36 and 37, on page 64, with the following:

“(a) a main line;

(b) a yard track, siding or spur; or 2;2 (c) other track auxiliary to a railway line”.

The question was put on Motion No. 29 and it was negatived on the following division.

YEAS: 58, NAYS: 91 (See list under Division No. 22)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 31 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 141, be amended by adding after line 17, on page 65, the following:

 
“(4)
A plan prepared by a railway company that does not indicate the company’s intention to discontinue operation of a line shall not be amended by the company for twelve months.”

The question was put on Motion No. 31 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 23)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brien — Charest — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — Duncan — Epp — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Godin — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Jennings — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Manning — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Morrison — Ramsay — Ringma — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Silye — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — Venne — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams --58

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Bélair — Bernier (Beauce) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Gray (Windsor West) — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Marleau — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Milliken — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Robichaud — Robillard — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Simmons — Stewart (Brant) — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Wells — Whelan — Young — Zed --90

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 36 of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West–Revelstoke), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 146, be amended by adding after line 39, on page 68, the following:

 
“(3)
In any agreement, or amendment to an agreement, relating to the construvtion or maintenance of a utility or infrastructure crossing, the railway company shall not require the utility company or municipal, regional or provincial government to indemnify the railway company for the railway company’s own negligence.”

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 58, NAYS: 91 (See list under Division No. 23)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 37 of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West–Revelstoke), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 146, be amended by adding after line 39, on page 68, the following:

 
“(3)
Where a railway company discontinues a line, it shall ensure that municipal governments, regional governments, provincial governments and gas, water, power, telephone and other utility companies continue to have full and unfettered access to existing right-of-way corridors, easements and servitudes, registered or unregistered, in, over, on or under the railway line for the maintenance of essential infrastructures.”

The question was put on Motion No. 37 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 58, NAYS: 91 (See list under Division No. 23)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 38 of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West–Revelstoke), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 146, be amended by adding after line 39, on page 68, the following:

 
“(3)
Notwithstanding any other provision of this or any other Act of Parliament, the operation of the main railway freight line operated by the Canadian National Rail Company between Montreal and Halifax shall not be abandoned or conveyed to a third party during the first five years following the coming into force of this Act.”

The question was put on Motion No. 38 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 24)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brien — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — Duncan — Epp — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Godin — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Jennings — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Manning — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Morrison — Ramsay — Ringma — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Silye — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — Venne — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams --57

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Althouse — Anderson — Assadourian — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Bélair — Benoit — Bernier (Beauce) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Blaikie — Bodnar — Boudria — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Chatters — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finlay — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Gilmour — Goodale — Gouk — Gray (Windsor West) — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harb — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jennings — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Manning — Marleau — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mifflin — Milliken — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Morrison — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Ringma — Robichaud — Robillard — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Silye — Simmons — Solberg — Speaker — Stewart (Brant) — Stinson — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Wells — Whelan — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams — Young — Zed --127

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing line 13, on page 5, with the following:

 
“(3)
The Governor in Council shall, with the agreement of the lieutenant governors in council of Quebec and Ontario and with the consensus of the lieutenant governors in council of the four provinces in western Canada and the four provinces in eastern Canada, desig”.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 25)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Brien — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — Gagnon (Québec) — Godin — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Mercier — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Venne --21

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Althouse — Anderson — Assadourian — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Bélair — Benoit — Bernier (Beauce) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Blaikie — Bodnar — Boudria — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Chatters — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finlay — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Gilmour — Goodale — Gouk — Gray (Windsor West) — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harb — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jennings — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft — Sloan — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Manning — Marleau — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mifflin — Milliken — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Morrison — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Ringma — Robichaud — Robillard — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Silye — Simmons — Solberg — Speaker — Stewart (Brant) — Stinson — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Wells — Whelan — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams — Young — Zed — 127

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 9, 14 and 15 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 89, be amended by replacing line 11, on page 39, with the following:

“way is declared by an Act of Parliament, after obtaining the approval of the province concerned, to be”.

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 26)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Brien — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — Gagnon (Québec) — Godin — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Mercier — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Venne --23

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Bélair — Benoit — Bernier (Beauce) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Chatters — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finlay — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Gilmour — Goodale — Gouk — Gray (Windsor West) — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harb — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jennings — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Manning — Marleau — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mifflin — Milliken — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Morrison — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Ringma — Robichaud — Robillard — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Silye — Simmons — Solberg — Speaker — Stewart (Brant) — Stinson — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Wells — Whelan — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams — Young — Zed --125

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 72 and 73 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 27 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), — That Bill C–14 be amended by adding after line 2, on page 64, the following new Clause:

“138.1.
(1)
A railway company under the authority of a provincial legislature may apply to the Agency for the right to run and operate its trains over and on any portion of the railway of any other railway company in order to facilitate the interchange of traffic or to procure a competitive interswitching point with another railway.
(2)
Where the parties do not agree on the conditions or the amount of compensation to be paid, either party may apply to the Agency in writing to have the matter adjudicated by the Agency.”

The question was put on Motion No. 27 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 23, NAYS: 125 (See list under Division No. 26)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 68 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 160, be amended by replacing line 26, on page 76, with the following:

“the government of a province or a railway company under the legislative authority of a province; or”.

The question was put on Motion No. 68 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 58, NAYS: 91 (See list under Division No. 23)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West–Revelstoke), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 27, be amended by deleting lines 34 to 42, on page 10.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 37, NAYS: 112 (See list under Division No. 21)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay West–Revelstoke), seconded by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan–Shuswap), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing lines 9 and 10, on page 11, with the following:

“native means of transporting the goods;

(f) the nature of the goods being transported;

(g) the number of markets served by the applicant shipper;

(h) the number of other potential carriers available to the applicant shipper;

(i) the rate differential between potential carriers;

(j) the competitive effects of a rate increase on the destination market, whether domestic or export;

(k) whether a rate increase would impair the ability of the applicant shipper to penetrate or to expand into domestic and export markets;

(l) the financial and competitive impact of the rate increase upon the short-term and the long-term viability of the applicant shipper;

(m) any other matters that appear to the”.

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 37, NAYS: 112 (See list under Division No. 21)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 98, be amended by replacing line 37, on page 42, with the following:

“the Agency, the obtaining of an environmental assessment and compliance with zoning by-laws in the municipalities in any province affected by the railway line.”

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 23, NAYS: 125 (See list under Division No. 26)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 112.

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 37, NAYS: 112 (See list under Division No. 26)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 112, be amended by replacing line 20, on page 49, with the following:

“must be commercially fair and reasonable to all parties.”

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 27)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Asselin — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Bachand — Barnes — Bélair — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Bernier (Beauce) — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brien — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Dalphond-Guiral — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finlay — Frazer — Fry — Gaffney — Gagnon (Québec) — Gallaway — Gerrard — Gilmour — Godin — Goodale — Gouk — Gray (Windsor West) — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harb — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Harvard — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jennings — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lee — Lefebvre — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Manning — Marleau — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mercier — Meredith — Mifflin — Milliken — Mills (Red Deer) — Minna — Mitchell — Morrison — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Ramsay — Reed — Ringma — Robichaud — Robillard — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Silye — Simmons — Solberg — Speaker — Stewart (Brant) — Stinson — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Venne — Wells — Whelan — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams — Young — Zed --146

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Althouse — Blaikie --2

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 57 of Mr. Mercier (Blainville–Deux-Montagnes), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), — That Bill C–14 be amended by deleting Clause 147.

The question was put on Motion No. 57 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 21, NAYS:127 (See list under division No. 25)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64 and 65 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on the Motion No. 66 of Mr. Althouse (Mackenzie), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar–Marquette), — That Bill C–14, in Clause 155, be amended by replacing lines 17 to 21, on page 72, with the following:

 
“(2)
The Minister shall lay before the House of Commons a report concerning the review made under subsection (1) within thirty sitting days after the review is completed.”

The question was put on Motion No. 66 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 37, NAYS: 112 (See list under Division No. 26)

Mr. Anderson (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved, — That Bill C–14, An Act to continue the National Transportation Agency as the Canadian Transportation Agency, to consolidate and revise the National Transportation Act, 1987 and the Railway Act and to amend or repeal other Acts as a consequence, as amended, be concurred in at report stage, with further amendments, and read a second time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 28)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anderson — Assadourian — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Bélair — Bernier (Beauce) — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Calder — Campbell — Catterall — Cauchon — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Copps — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — DeVillers — Dingwall — Dromisky — Duhamel — Dupuy — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fry — Gaffney — Gallaway — Gerrard — Goodale — Gray (Windsor West) — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lee — Loney — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Malhi — Marleau — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Milliken — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Phinney — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Robichaud — Robillard — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Simmons — Stewart (Brant) — Szabo — Telegdi — Ur — Wells — Whelan — Young — Zed --91

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Benoit — Bernier (Gaspé) — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blaikie — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Breitkreuz (Yorkton–Melville) — Bridgman — Brien — Charest — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — Duncan — Epp — Frazer — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Godin — Gouk — Grey (Beaver River) — Grubel — Harper (Calgary West) — Harris — Hart — Hill (Macleod) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hoeppner — Jennings — Lalonde — Landry — Langlois — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Manning — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Mills (Red Deer) — Morrison — Ramsay — Ringma — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Schmidt — Silye — Solberg — Speaker — Stinson — Venne — White (Fraser Valley West) — Williams --58

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Augustine — Bakopanos — Bergeron — Bertrand — Cannis — Canuel — Caron — Chamberlain — Chan — Crête — Daviault — Debien — Deshaies — Dhaliwal — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Gauthier — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Churchill) — Iftody — Jacob — Kirkby — Laurin — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Lincoln — Loubier — MacAulay — Maloney — Marchand — Ménard — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Nunziata — Paradis — Paré — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Pomerleau — Regan — Shepherd — Skoke — Speller — St-Laurent — Steckle — Stewart (Northumberland) — Terrana — Torsney — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wood

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) — Reports of the Bank of Canada for the period ended December 31, 1995, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A–1 and P–21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-352-684. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)


by Mr. Young (Minister of Human Resources Development) — Report of the Canada Employment and Immigration Commission and the Human Resources Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, and the Auditor General’s Report on the Unemployment Insurance Account for the year ended December 31, 1994, pursuant to the Employment and Immigration Department and Commission Act, R. S. 1985, c. E–5, ss. 8 and 20 and sbs. 19(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-8. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

  • by Mr. Peric (Cambridge), concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 352-0214).

Adjournment

At 7:00 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).