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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 043

Wednesday, March 23, 1994

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. McWhinney (Vancouver Quadra), seconded by Mrs. Venne (SaintHubert), moved, -- That, in recognition for his long and distinguished service as the Chief Executive Officer of the Library of Parliament, Mr. Erik John Spicer be appointed an honorary officer of the House of Commons as ``Parliamentary Librarian Emeritus''.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

NOTICES OF MOTIONS

Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)) gave notice of the intention to move a motion at the next sitting of the House, pursuant to Standing Order 78(3), for the purpose of allotting a specified number of days or hours for the consideration and disposal of the second reading stage of Bill C-18, An Act to suspend the operation of the Electoral Boundaries Readjustment Act.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), for Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), laid upon the Table, -- Copies of Orders in Council pursuant to Standing Order 110(1) approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council as follows:

(1) P.C. 1994-298 -- Jocelyne Bourgon, Clerk of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Secretary to the Cabinet. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-4B.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

(2) Chairpersons of the Boards of Referees of the Unemployment Insurance Commission for the Quebec Regional Division:
P.C. 1994-415 -- Guy Lespérance, District of Alma;
P.C. 1994-416 -- Christian Méthot, District of Drummondville;
P.C. 1994-417 -- Gaétan Ratté, District of Drummondville;

P.C. 1994-418 -- Elman Guttormson, Chairperson of the Boards of Referees of the Unemployment Insurance Commission for the Manitoba Regional Division, District of Winnipeg;

P.C. 1994-419 -- Marguerite M.C. Watson, Chairperson of the Boards of Referees of the Unemployment Insurance Commission for the Alberta Regional Division, District of Red Deer;

P.C. 1994-420 -- Andrée Fleming, Chairperson of the Boards of Referees of the Unemployment Insurance Commission for the British Columbia Regional Division, District of Vancouver;

P.C. 1994-421 -- Michael J. Dwyer, governor of the Council of the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-16B.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

(3) P.C. 1994-425 -- Pearce Penney, Chairman of the National Library Advisory Board. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-3C.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

(4) P.C. 1994-426 -- Vincent Angelozzi, Sr., Returning Officer for the electoral district of LaSalle-Émard. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-5B.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

(5) Alternate Members of the Renewable Resources Board; P.C. 1994-427 -- Roger Frederick Peet and Paul Bernard Latour, nominated by the Government of Canada;

Robert Alexie, Sr., Grace Blake and Freddie Greenland, nominated by the Gwich'in Tribal Council;

Edward Henderson, nominated by the Government of the Northwest Territories. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-1A.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development)

(6) P.C. 1994-428 -- Admiral John R. Anderson, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of Canada to the North Atlantic Council (NATO) in Brussels. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-8C.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

(7) P.C. 1994-429 -- Louie Gerald Mele and Major L. Phillips, members of the Blue Water Bridge Authority. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-24B.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), for Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-0071, 351-0093 and 351-0099 concerning housing policies. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-11A.

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-0119 concerning crimes of violence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-13B.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-0120 concerning material depicting violence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-2D.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Nault (Kenora -- Rainy River), from the Standing Committee on Natural Resources, presented the 1st Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

In accordance with its Order of Reference of Friday, March 11, 1994, your Committee has considered Bill C-6, An Act to amend the Canada Oil and Gas Operations Act, the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and the National Energy Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, and has agreed to report it without amendment.

A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence relating to this Bill (Issues Nos. 6 and 7, which includes this Report) is tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Laurin (Joliette), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), Bill C-230, An Act to amend the Unemployment Insurance Act (training and self-employment), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

First Reading of Senate Public Bills

Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)), moved, -- That Bill S-2, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and the Republic of Hungary, an agreement between Canada and the Federal Republic of Nigeria, an agreement between Canada and the Republic of Zimbabwe, a convention between Canada and the Argentine Republic and a protocol between Canada and the Kingdom of the Netherlands for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to income taxes and to make related amendments to other Acts, be now read a first time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-0154);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), eight concerning tobacco (Nos. 351-0155 to 351-0162).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed debate on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Walker (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), -- That Bill C-14, An Act to provide borrowing authority for the fiscal year beginning on April 1, 1994, be now read a third time and do pass.

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Tuesday, March 22, 1994, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 21)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Valeri -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 146

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Péloquin -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- Wayne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 90

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Dalphond-Guiral -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Marchi -- O'Brien -- Parrish -- Patry -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, March 16, 1994, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 6)

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 22)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Valeri -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 146

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Péloquin -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- Wayne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 90

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Dalphond-Guiral -- DeVillers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Marchi -- O'Brien -- Parrish -- Patry -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:03 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Allmand (Notre-Dame-de-Grâce), seconded by Mr. Alcock (Winnipeg South), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should initiate an amendment to the Constitution Act, 1982 to delete Section 33 (the Notwithstanding Clause). (Private Members' Business M-239)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

SENATE MESSAGES

A message was received from the Senate as follows:

    ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed the following Bill, namely:
      Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements and Federal Post-Secondary Education and Health Contributions Act

without amendment.


A message was received form the Senate as follows:

    RESOLVED: That the Senate do unite with the House of Commons in the appointment of a Special Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons to consider Canada's foreign policy including international trade and international assistance;
    That the document entitled: ``Guidance Paper for the Special Joint Parliamentary Committee reviewing Canadian Foreign Policy'', be referred to the Committee;
    That the Committee be directed to consult broadly and to analyze the issues discussed in the above-mentioned document, and to make recommendations in their report concerning the objectives and conduct of Canada's foreign policy;
    That the Committee be composed of fifteen Members of the House of Commons and seven Members of the Senate;
    That, notwithstanding Rule 86(1)(b), the Members to act on behalf of the Senate on the Committee be the Honourable Senators Andreychuk, Bolduc, Carney, Gigantès, Kelleher, MacEachen and Perrault;
    That the Committee have the power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the Senate;
    That the committee have the power to report from time to time, to send for persons, papers and records, and to print such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee;
    That the Committee have the power to retain the services of expert, professional, technical and clerical staff;
    That the Committee have the power to adjourn from place to place inside Canada and abroad and that, when deemed necessary, the required staff accompany the Committee;
    That a quorum of the Committee be twelve Members, whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken, so long as both Houses are represented and that the Joint Chairpersons be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence and authorize the printing thereof, whenever six Members are present, so long as both Houses are represented;
    That the Committee be empowered to appoint from among its Members, such sub-committees as may be deemed advisable, and to delegate to such sub-committees all or any of its power, except the power to report to the Senate and House of Commons;
    That the Committee or its representatives meet on occasions it deems fitting with the Special Joint Committee or its representatives charged with reviewing Canada's defence policy;
    That the Committee be empowered to authorize television and radio broadcasting of any or all of its proceedings;
    That notwithstanding the usual practices of this House, if either the Senate or the House of Commons is not sitting when an interim report of the Committee is completed, the Committee shall deposit its report with the Clerks of both Houses; and said report shall thereupon be deemed to have been presented to both Houses; and
    That the Committee present its final report no later than October 31, 1994.

ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House accordingly.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, having been deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

By Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report on the Administration of the Public Service Superannuation Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1993, pursuant to section 46 of the Public Service Superannuation Act, Chapter P-36, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-220. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)


By Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report on the Administration of the Supplementary Retirement Benefits Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1993, pursuant to section 12 of the Supplementary Retirement Benefits Act, Chapter S-24, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-366. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Vanclief (Prince Edward -- Hastings), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-0163);

-- by Mr. Peric (Cambridge), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-0164) and one concerning material depicting violence (No. 351-0165); é

-- by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg Transcona), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-0166).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:51 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).