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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 272

Wednesday, December 6, 1995

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses; pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

(1) Nos. 351-4035, 351-4036, 351-4044 and 351-4045 concerning the parole system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545 -- 351-10JJ;

(2) Nos. 351-4040 and 351-4050 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3QQ;

(3) Nos. 351-4042 and 351-4043 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-24AA;

(4) Nos. 351-4053 to 351-4060 concerning, crimes of violence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-13H.

Statements by Ministers

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mrs. Finestone (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism)(Status of Women)) made a statement.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Bélair (Cochrane -- Superior) presented the Report of the Canadian branch of the Assemblée internationale des parlementaires de langue française (AIPLF) respecting its participation at the Assemblée régionale Amérique held in Quebec City from July 12 to 14, 1995. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-351-52I.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury), from the Standing Committee on Health, presented the 7th Report of the Committee (Bill C-95, An Act to establish the Department of Health and to amend and repeal certain Acts, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-173.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 34, which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard), from the Standing Committee on Health, presented the 8th Report of the Committee (HIV-AIDS). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-174.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 35, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mrs. Terrana (Vancouver East), one concerning the situation in Sri Lanka (No. 351-4110);

-- by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-4111) and one concerning sentences in the Criminal Code (No. 351-4112);

-- by Mr. Jordan (Leeds -- Grenville), one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 351-4113);

-- by Mr. Ianno (Trinity -- Spadina), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-4114).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 57, Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That, in relation to the consideration of Government Business No. 26 and any amendments proposed thereto, the debate not be further adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 391)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Martin (LaSall-e-Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 146

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Daviault -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Riis -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams-93

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Copps -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dingwall -- Fewchuk -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Marleau -- Mercier -- Ouellet -- Paré -- Pomerleau -- Robichaud -- Robillard

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That, on Thursday, December 7, 1995, if any division is demanded with regard to any business pursuant to Standing Order 81, the said division shall be deferred until 6:30 p.m. on Monday, December 11, 1995; and

On Friday, December 8, 1995, notwithstanding the Order made Thursday, November 30, 1995, the putting of the question on any motion relating to the Business of Supply pursuant to Standing Order 81 shall be deferred until 6:30 p.m. on Monday, December 11, 1995.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That, during the debate on Government Business No. 26 today, there shall be no quorum calls nor dilatory motions accepted by the Chair, and at the expiry of the debate, the question then before the House shall be deemed put and a recorded division deemed demanded and accordingly deferred to 6:30 p.m. Monday, December ll, 1995.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Chrétien (Prime Minister), seconded by Ms. Copps (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Environment), -- That

      Whereas the people of Quebec have expressed the desire for recognition of Quebec's distinct society;
        (1) the House recognize that Quebec is a distinct society within Canada;
        (2) the House recognize that Quebec's distinct society includes its French-speaking majority, unique culture and civil law tradition:
        (3) the House undertake to be guided by this reality;
        (4) the House encourage all components of the legislative and executive branches of government to take note of this recognition and be guided in their conduct accordingly. (Government Business No. 26)

Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Calgary West), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by adding immediately after the word ``accordingly'' the following:

      ``(5) Nothing in this resolution shall:
        i) Confer or be interpreted as conferring upon the legislature or government of Quebec, any new legislative or executive powers, proprietary rights, status, or any other rights or privileges not conferred on the legislature or government of any province;
        ii) Diminish or be interpreted as diminishing in any way the rights and freedoms of any resident of Quebec;
        iii) Deny or be interpreted as denying that Canada constitutes one nation.''

Debate arose thereon.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:28 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Assad (Gatineau -- La Lièvre), seconded by Mrs. Bakopanos (Saint-Denis), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider the advisability of reviewing and reforming funding for political parties. (Private Members' Business M-367)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Chrétien (Prime Minister), seconded by Ms. Copps (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Environment); (Government Business No. 26)

And of the amendment of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Mr. Harper (Calgary West).

The debate continued.

At 11:04 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 57, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the question was deemed to have been put on the amendment and a recorded division was deemed demanded and deferred until Monday, December 11, 1995, at 6: 30 p.m.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-4115).

ADJOURNMENT

At 11:04 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).