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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 143

Tuesday, December 13, 1994

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1416 concerning VIA Rail. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-69D.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), from the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, presented the 2nd Report of the Committee (Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-71.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 50 to 55 and 56, which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. Speller (Haldimand -- Norfolk), from the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food, presented the 5th Report of the Committee (New Realities and Tough Choices: From Agriculture to Agri-Food, An Interim Report). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510- 351-72.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 23 to 29, 31, 33, 36, 38, 40 to 43 and 44, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), Bill C-297, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (summary conviction penalties), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), moved, -- That the 10th Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented on Thursday, December 8, 1994, be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), moved, -- That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion of Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 138)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Madeleine) Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Rock -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young -- 134

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 89

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Assadourian (Don Valley North), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-1671);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1672);

-- by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1673);

-- by Mr. Hopkins (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-1674 and 351-1675);

-- by Mr. Nunziata (York South -- Weston), four concerning the parole system (Nos. 351-1676 to 351-1679);

-- by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1680);

-- by Mr. Crawford (Kent), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-1681);

-- by Mrs. Gaffney (Nepean), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-1682) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1683);

-- by Mr. Collins (Souris -- Moose Mountain), two concerning the parole system (Nos. 351-1684 and 351-1685).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons of Bill C-64, An Act respecting employment equity.

Pursuant to Standing Order 73(1), Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), moved, -- That the Bill be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

STATEMENTS BY MINISTERS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) made a statement in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 33(1).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), -- That Bill C-64, An Act respecting employment equity, be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until 5:30 p.m.


The Order was read for the consideration of the amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts (miscellaneous matters).

Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), moved, -- That the amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts (miscellaneous matters), be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.


The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-52, An Act to establish the Department of Public Works and Government Services and to amend and repeal certain Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Government Operations with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected and grouped for debate the following motions:

Group No. 1 -- Motion No. 1

Group No. 2 -- Motions Nos. 2 and 3

Group No. 3 -- Motions Nos. 4, 5, 6 and 7

Group No. 4 -- Motions Nos. 8 and 9

Group No. 5 -- Motions Nos. 10 and 11

Group No. 1

Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 7, be amended by adding after line 20, on page 3, the following:

    ``(a) refrain, where possible, from engaging in activities for or on behalf of any government, body or person in Canada or elsewhere that are in direct competition with private corporations, firms or organizations;
    (b) ensure, where possible, that public disclosure of decisions and other information is complete and easily accessible;
    (c) ensure that the Queen's Printer for Canada is operated efficiently and competently, maintaining as a priority the effective use of tax dollars;
    (d) ensure that the reduction of all costs remains a high priority in the operations of the Department;''.

Debate arose on the motion in Group 1.

Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. Asselin (Charlevoix), moved, -- That Motion No. 1, in paragraphs (a) and (b), be amended by deleting the words ``, where possible,''.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mrs. Chamberlain (Guelph -- Wellington), seconded by Mr. Duhamel (Parliamentary Secretary to the President of the Treasury Board), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-52, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 39 to 45, on page 5, and line 1, on page 6, with the following:

      ``16. The Minister may do any thing for or on behalf of
      (a) any department, board or agency of the Government of Canada or Crown corporation, or
      (b) with the approval of the Governor in Council, any government, body or person in Canada or elsewhere that requests the Minister to do that thing, where the Minister is authorized to do that thing under this''.

Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), seconded by Mr. Asselin (Charlevoix), moved Motion No. 3, -- That Bill C-52 be amended by deleting Clause 16.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2.


At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Friday, December 9, 1994, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), -- That Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Canada Grain Act and respecting certain regulations made pursuant to that Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 139)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Paré -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 194

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Chatters -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 53

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of the Environment), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), -- That Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 140)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Madeleine) -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rock -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 156

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 91

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Citizenship Act and to make a consequential amendment to the Customs Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), seconded by Mrs. Debien (Laval East), -- That Bill C-44, in Clause 1, be amended by replacing line 8, on page 1, with the following:

    ``made under subsection 23(4),''.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 141)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Laurent -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 53

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 194

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 18, 19 and 23 were also negatived on the same division.

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), seconded by Mrs. Debien (Laval East), -- That Bill C-44, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 11, with the following:

    ``years or more may be imposed and the person was sentenced to a term of imprisonment of two years or more and the''.

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 53, NAYS: 194. (See list under division No. 141)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), seconded by Mrs. Debien (Laval East), -- That Bill C-44 be amended by adding after line 25, on page 11, the following new Clause:

      ``12.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after subsection 53(1):
      ``(1.1) Paragraphs (1)(a) to (d) do not apply to a person
      (a) who was admitted to permanent residence in Canada before attaining the age of ten years where it is demonstrated that the person has no emotional or other ties to the country to which it is proposed the person be removed, or
      (b) who has been admitted to permanent residence in Canada and has resided in Canada for ten years or more since being admitted''.''

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 142)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Laurent -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 53

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 193

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 15 of Mrs. Debien (Laval East), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), -- That Bill C-44 be amended by deleting Clause 13.

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 53, NAYS: 194. (See list under division No. 141)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mrs. Debien (Laval East), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), -- That Bill C-44 be amended by deleting Clause 14.

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 53, NAYS: 194. (See list under division No. 141)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mrs. Debien (Laval East), seconded by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), -- That Bill C-44 be amended by deleting Clause 15.

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 53, NAYS: 194. (See list under division No. 141)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), seconded by Mrs. Debien (Laval East), -- That Bill C-44 be amended by deleting Clause 18.

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 143)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 45

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 202

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), seconded by Mrs. Debien (Laval East), -- That Bill C-44, in Clause 19, be amended by replacing lines 36 to 38, on page 15, with the following:

      ``103. (1) On being satisfied that a notice of appearance or a summons has been served on any person, the Deputy Minister or a senior immigration officer may issue a warrant for the arrest and detention of the person where''.

The question was put on Motion No. 21 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 53, NAYS: 194. (See list under division No. 141)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), seconded by Mrs. Debien (Laval East), -- That Bill C-44, in Clause 19, in the French version:

    (a) by replacing line 41, on page 15, with the following:
      ``sion aux termes du''; and
    (b) by replacing line 3, on page 16, with the following:
      ``publique ou qu'elle ne comparaîtra pas à l'interrogatoire, à l'enquête ou au prononcé de la décision, ou''.

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 53, NAYS: 194. (See list under division No. 141)

Mr. Marchi (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Citizenship Act and to make a consequential amendment to the Customs Act, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with a further amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 144)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Madeleine) -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rock -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 149

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McLaughlin -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 98

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with a further amendment and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), -- That Bill C-64, An Act respecting employment equity, be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 145)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Paré -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Solomon -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 199

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 46

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Accordingly, the Bill was referred to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled Persons.


PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Pursuant to Order made Thursday, December 8, 1994, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Nunziata (York South -- Weston), seconded by Mr. Keyes (Hamilton West), -- That Bill C-226, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 146)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Arseneault -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Benoit -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Cannis -- Chamberlain -- Chatters -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Duncan -- Easter -- English -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gaffney -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Keyes -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacDonald -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Parrish -- Payne -- Penson -- Peric -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Silye -- Simmons -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Terrana -- Thompson -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 136

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Allmand -- Anderson -- Assad -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Copps -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fry -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Irwin -- Jacob -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Murphy -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Peters -- Peterson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- St-Laurent -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- 103

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs.


Pursuant to Order made Friday, December 9, 1994, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion, as amended, of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères), seconded by Mr. Landry (Lotbinière), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should officially recognize the historical contribution of the Patriots of Lower Canada and the Reformers of Upper Canada to the establishment of a system of responsible democratic government. (Private Members' Business M-257)

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 147)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Anawak -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bhaduria -- Blaikie -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brien -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Caccia -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Copps -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacDonald -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLaughlin -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Paré -- Patry -- Peric -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Taylor -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wood -- 133

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Baker -- Benoit -- Berger -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Chatters -- Collins -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Dhaliwal -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gaffney -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Keyes -- MacAulay -- Manning -- Marleau -- Mayfield -- Meredith -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- Payne -- Penson -- Peters -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Ramsay -- Richardson -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Wayne -- Wells -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Young -- 85

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Cauchon -- Collenette -- Crête -- Dubé -- Lalonde -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Minna -- Ménard -- Robichaud


At 6:39 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Lee (Scarborough -- Rouge River), seconded by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough West), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should amend the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act to authorize the Security Intelligence Review Committee to review the operations of the Communications Security Establishment (CSE); (Private Members' Business M-38)

And of the amendment of Mr. Langlois (Bellechasse), seconded by Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), -- That the motion be amended by adding after the words ``Establishment (CSE)'' the following:

    ``and to table an annual report in the House on the aforementioned activities''.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

      ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-63, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 1995.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:47 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

By Mr. Collenette (Minister of National Defence) -- Report on the Administration of the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to sections 57 (Part I) and 72 (Part II) of the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act, Chapter C-17, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-92A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)


By Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board) -- Actuarial Report (including Cost Certificate) on the Pension Plan for the Public Service of Canada as at December 31, 1992, pursuant to subsection 9(1) of the Public Pension Reporting Act, Chapter 13, (2nd Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-221. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)


By Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board) -- Actuarial Report (including Cost Certificate) on the Pension Plan for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, as at December 31, 1992, pursuant to subsection 9(1) of the Public Pension Reporting Act, Chapter 13, (2nd Supp.) Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-580. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)


By Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) -- Summary of the amendment to the Capital Budget for 1994 of the Canada Development Investment Corporation, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-831A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)


By Mr. Pagtakhan (Chairman of the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Disabled persons) -- 1993 Report of the recipient of the Centennial Flame Research Award, pursuant to subsection 7(1) of the Centennial Flame Research Award Act, Chapter 17, Statutes of Canada, 1991. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-326.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Northumberland), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-1686 and 351-1687).

ADJOURNMENT

At 8:19 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).