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House of Commons of Canada
35th Parliament, 2nd Session

Journals

No. 128
Wednesday, February 12, 1997
2:00 p.m.

Prayers

National Anthem

Statements by Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Naming of a Member

The Speaker named Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East) for disregarding the authority of the Chair and, pursuant to Standing Order 11(1)(a), ordered the Honourable Member to withdraw from the House for the remainder of today’s sitting.

Whereupon, the Honourable Member withdrew from the House.

Daily Routine of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

  1. P.C. 1997-146. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-1D. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development);
  2. P.C. 1997-138 and P.C. 1997-139. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-8J. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade);
  3. P.C. 1997-140. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-18F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health);
  4. P.C. 1997-147 and P.C. 1997-148. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-16H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development);
  5. P.C. 1997-153 and P.C. 1997-181. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-13G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs);
  6. P.C. 1997-141 to P.C. 1997-145. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-5J. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs).

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

  1. Nos. 352-0873, 352-0874, 352-0999 to 352-1004, 352-1018, 352-1024 to 352-1027, 352-1031, 352-1040, 352-1101, 352-1294, 352-1327, 352-1347 and 352-1519 concerning Constitutional amendments. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-87A;
  2. Nos. 352-1330 and 352-1331 concerning radio and television programming. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-91A;
  3. Nos. 352-1429, 352-1430 to 352-1434, 352-1445, 352-1447, 352-1450, 352-1452, 352-1456, 352-1464 and 352-1468 concerning taxes on books. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-129F;
  4. Nos. 352-1435 and 352-1436 concerning sexual orientation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-45U;
  5. No. 352-1437 concerning Cyprus. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-131A;
  6. Nos. 352-1438, 352-1446, 352-1448, 352-1451, 352-1453, 352-1458 and 352-1469 concerning the highway system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-137C;
  7. Nos. 352-1439 and 352-1459 concerning the Divorce Act. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-27I;
  8. No. 352-1442 concerning the income tax system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-28FF;
  9. Nos. 352-1455 and 352-1463 concerning the tax on gasoline. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-44T.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Alcock (Winnipeg South), from the Standing Committee on Transport, presented the 6th Report of the Committee (A National Highway Renewal Strategy). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-76.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 2 to 5, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Mr. Walker (Winnipeg North Centre), from the Standing Committee on Industry, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Review of Science and Technology and the Innovation Gap in Canada). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-77.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 3 and 4, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 53rd Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following change in the membership of the Standing Committee:

Justice and Legal Affairs

Geoff Regan for Roger Gallaway
The Committee also recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the following Members be added to the list of Associate Members of the Standing Committee:

Finance

Dick HarrisJay Hill
The Committee further recommends, that where a Member is appointed as permanent member to a Committee in accordance with this report and to which he was previously appointed Associate Member, that the name of the Member be struck from the list of Associate Members of the said Committee.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Eggleton (Minister for International Trade), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board and Minister responsible for Infrastructure), Bill C–81, An Act to implement the Canada-Chile Free Trade Agreement and related agreements, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))
His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled “An Act to implement the Canada-Chile Free Trade Agreement and related agreements”.

Introduction of Private Members’ Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), Bill C–371, An Act to amend the Department of Justice Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved, — That the 53rd Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

  • by Mr. Ianno (Trinity–Spadina), three concerning AIDS research (Nos. 352-1683 to 352-1685);
  • by Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1686) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1687);
  • by Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 352-1688);
  • by Mr. Duhamel (St. Boniface), one concerning immigration (No. 352-1689);
  • by Mr. Nunziata (York South–Weston), one concerning the parole system (No. 352-1690) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 352-1691);
  • by Mr. Marchand (Québec East), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1692);
  • by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords–Meadow Lake), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1693);
  • by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters’ death benefits (No. 352-1694), one concerning the income tax system (No. 352-1695) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 352-1696);
  • by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the tax system (No. 352-1697), one concerning euthanasia (No. 352-1698) and one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1699).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q–98 and Q–99 on the Order Paper.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C–60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence.

Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board and Minister responsible for Infrastructure) for Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Quorum

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After seven minutes, a quorum was found.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at 5:15 p.m.

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

Quorum

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After four minutes, a quorum was found.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

Quorum

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After three minutes, a quorum was found.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

Quorum

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

Quorum

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After three minutes, a quorum was found.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–23, An Act to establish the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

Mr. Deshaies (Abitibi), seconded by Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier–Montcalm), moved, — That the House do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 224)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Axworthy (Saskatoon–Clark’s Crossing) — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Brien — Canuel — Crête — Dalphond-Guiral — de Jong — de Savoye — Debien — Deshaies — Dubé — Dumas — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Guimond — Langlois — Laurin — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Marchand — Ménard — Mercier — Nunez — Paré — Pomerleau — Riis — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Taylor — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) --40

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Alcock — Allmand — Anawak — Arseneault — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Bakopanos — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bernier (Beauce) — Bertrand — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Caccia — Calder — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Discepola — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gallaway — Gerrard — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Jackson — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lee — Lincoln — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Maloney — Manley — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Robichaud — Rock — Shepherd — Sheridan — Skoke — Speller — Stewart (Brant) — Szabo — Telegdi — Terrana — Thalheimer — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Walker — Wappel — Wood — Zed --111

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Assadourian — Bachand — Barnes — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Campbell — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Duceppe — Fillion — Finestone — Harper (Churchill) — Lalonde — Landry — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lefebvre — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Robillard — St. Denis — Venne — Whelan

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), — That Bill C–60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 225)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Alcock — Allmand — Anawak — Arseneault — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Bakopanos — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bernier (Beauce) — Bertrand — Bethel — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Bryden — Caccia — Calder — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) — Clancy — Cohen — Cowling — Crawford — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Discepola — Duhamel — Dupuy — Easter — Eggleton — English — Finlay — Flis — Fontana — Gaffney — Gagliano — Gallaway — Gerrard — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Grose — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lastewka — Lee — Lincoln — MacAulay — MacDonald — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Maloney — Manley — Marleau — Massé — McCormick — McGuire — McKinnon — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — Nunziata — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — Pagtakhan — Parrish — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Robichaud — Rock — Shepherd — Sheridan — Skoke — Speller — Stewart (Brant) — Szabo — Telegdi — Terrana — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Walker — Wappel — Wood — Zed --113

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Axworthy (Saskatoon–Clark’s Crossing) — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Bergeron — Bernier (Gaspé) — Brien — Canuel — Crête — Dalphond-Guiral — de Jong — de Savoye — Debien — Deshaies — Dubé — Dumas — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Godin — Guimond — Langlois — Laurin — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — Loubier — Marchand — Ménard — Mercier — Nunez — Paré — Pomerleau — Riis — Rocheleau — Sauvageau — Taylor — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Tremblay (Rosemont) --40

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Assadourian — Bachand — Barnes — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Campbell — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Duceppe — Fillion — Finestone — Harper (Churchill) — Lalonde — Landry — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lefebvre — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Patry — Picard (Drummond) — Robillard — St. Denis — Venne — Whelan

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Private Members’ Business

At 5:45 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members’ Business.

Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), seconded by Mr. Telegdi (Waterloo), moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider the advisability of establishing a Public Safety Officers Compensation Fund to receive gifts and bequests for the benefit of spouses and children of police officers and firefighters who loose their lives in the line of duty. (Private Members’ Business M–306)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development) — Report on Government Annuities, together with the Auditor General’s Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Government Annuities Improvement Act, S. C. 1974-75-76, c. 83, sbs. 18(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-57A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

  • by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa–Vanier), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1700);
  • by Mr. Marchand (Québec East), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1701).

Proceedings on Adjournment Motion

At 6:45 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Adjournment

At 6:58 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).