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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 074

Monday, May 30, 1994

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed debate on the motion of Mrs. Gaffney (Nepean), seconded by Mr. Arseneault (Restigouche -- Chaleur), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should amend the Income Tax Act so that child support payments are no longer considered taxable income for their recipients. (Private Members' Business M-14)

Debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, on division.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-17, An Act to amend certain statutes to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 22, 1994, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment.

Debate resumed on motions in Group No. 5 (Motions Nos. 23 to 28).

Group No. 5

Motion No. 23 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 21.

Motion No. 24 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 10, with the following:

    ``(a) 57 per cent of the claimant's average''.

Motion No. 25 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 16, on page 11, with the following:

    ``(ii) the greater of 57 per cent of the''.

Motion No. 26 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 26, on page 11, the following:

      ``(1.1) For purposes of paragraph (1)(b), a claimant need only establish a prima facie entitlement to application of the rate of weekly benefit provided under that paragraph, whereupon the onus is on the Commission to establish that the claimant is not entitled to application of the rate of weekly benefit provided under that paragraph.''

Motion No. 27 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 22.

Motion No. 28 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 23.

Motion No. 29 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 24.

Motion No. 30 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 25.

Motion No. 31 of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 26, be amended:

    (a) by replacing line 22, on page 13, with the following:
      ``48.1 (1) Notwithstanding section 48, the rate'';
    (b) by replacing lines 25 to 27, on page 13, with the following:
      ``(a) for the five month period beginning on January 1, 1994, 3.07 per cent of insurable earnings in that period;
      (b) for the seven month period beginning on June 1, 1994, 3 per cent of insurable earnings in that period;
      (c) for the year 1995, 3 per cent of insurable earnings in that year; and
      (d) for the year 1996, 3 per cent of insura-"; and
    (c) by adding after line 31, on page 13, the following:
        ``(2) For the purposes of applying subsection 50(1), section 51, paragraph 75(1)(p) and subsection 75(5) in respect of the year 1994, each period referred to in paragraphs (1)(a) and (b) shall be deemed to be a year within the meaning of those provisions.''

Motion No. 32 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 26.

Motion No. 33 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing line 36, on page 13, with the following:

    ``the House of Commons given by resolution of that House, make such regula-''.

Motion No. 34 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 27.

Motion No. 35 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 28.

Motion No. 36 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 29.

Motion No. 37 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 30.

Motion No. 38 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 31.

Debate continued.

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which will also apply to Motions Nos. 27 to 30, 32, and 34 to 38, was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-17, An Act to amend certain statutes to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 22, 1994.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at 6:30 p.m.


The Order was read for the consideration at report of Bill S-2, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and the Republic of Hungary, an agreement between Canada and the Federal Republic of Nigeria, an agreement between Canada and the Republic of Zimbabwe, a convention between Canada and the Argentine Republic and a protocol between Canada and the Kingdom of the Netherlands for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to income taxes and to make related amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment.

Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), for Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), laid upon the Table, -- Copies of Orders in Council pursuant to Standing Order 110(1) approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council as follows:

(1) P.C. 1994-705 to P.C. 1994-707 and P.C. 1994-713. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-7A.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

(2) P.C. 1994-708 to P.C. 1994-710, P.C. 1994-718 and P.C. 1994-721. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-24E.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

(3) P.C. 1994-712, P.C. 1994-714 to P.C. 1994-716. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-4E.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

(4) P.C. 1994-717. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-6D.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

(5) P.C. 1994-719. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-17A.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

(6) P.C. 1994-720. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-10B.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

(7) P.C. 1994-722. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-16D.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

(8) P.C. 1994-723 to P.C. 1994-725. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540- 351-2C.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

(9) P.C. 1994-755. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-351-13D.

(Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Caccia (Davenport), from the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (The Commissionner of the Environ- ment and Sustainable Development). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-13.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 5, 6, 8, 10, 14 to 26 and 27, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Motions

The following motion, in the name of Mr. Bouchard (Leader of the Opposition), was called and, pursuant to Standing Order 81(4)(a), was deemed adopted:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 81(4)(a), consideration of PUBLIC WORKS AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 and 40 of the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1995, by the Standing Committee on Government Operations, be extended beyond May 31, 1994.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Allmand (Notre-Dame-de-Grâce), one concerning the former Yugoslavia (No. 351-0323);

-- by Mr. Duhamel (St. Boniface), one concerning immigration (No. 351-0324).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-37 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Debate resumed on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), -- That Bill S-2, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and the Republic of Hungary, an agreement between Canada and the Federal Republic of Nigeria, an agreement between Canada and the Republic of Zimbabwe, a convention between Canada and the Argentine Republic and a protocol between Canada and the Kingdom of the Netherlands for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to income taxes and to make related amendments to other Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

The Order was read for second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage of Bill C-31, An Act to amend the Canadian Film Development Corporation Act.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), for Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Tobin (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.


The Order was read for second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-32, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Excise Act and the Income Tax Act.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.


At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-17, An Act to amend certain statutes to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 22, 1994, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment.

The House proceeded to the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Williams (St. Albert), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 43)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Péloquin -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- 36

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chatters -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Rock -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 156

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Asselin -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Crête -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Guay -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacAulay -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 2, 3, and 5 to 11 were negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 4, as amended in the French version, of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Leblanc (Longueuil), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 5, be amended by adding after line 33, on page 3, the following:

      ``(7) On the expiration of the extensions of compensation plans provided under subsections 5(1), 5(3), 7(2.1) and 7(2.2), these provisions shall be referred to such committee of the House of Commons as may be designated or established by that House for the purpose of reviewing the administration and operation of this Act and the committee shall undertake a comprehensive review of the administration and operation of these provisions and shall, within one year after the review is undertaken or within such time as that House may determine, submit a report to that House thereon including a statement on whether there should be any further extensions of the compensation plans.
      (8) There shall be no extensions of the compensation plans to which subsections 5(1), 5(3), 7(2.1) and 7(2.2) apply before the House has considered the report submitted under subsection (7).''

The question was put on the Motion No. 4, as amended in the French version, and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 44)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Péloquin -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Sauvageau -- Silye -- Speaker -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 62

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Rock -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 130

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Asselin -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Crête -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Guay -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacAulay -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne

The House proceeded to the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 36, on page 6, the following:

      ``(3) The operation of this section shall be reviewed on a permanent basis by such committee of the House, of the Senate or of both Houses of Parliament as may be designated or established for the purpose.''

The question was put on the Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62; NAYS: 130. (See list under Division No. 44)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 12.

The question was put on the Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 36; NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 43)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 14 and 15 were negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Scott (Skeena), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 18.

The question was put on the Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 45)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Chatters -- Duncan -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Kerpan -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Silye -- Speaker -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 26

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peterson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Péloquin -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 166

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Asselin -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Crête -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Guay -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacAulay -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 20 and 22 were negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 21 of Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), seconded by Mrs. Guay (Laurentides), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 37, on page 9, with the following:

    ``year, including indication of the purposes for which the Corporation plans to borrow money and its plans for repayment of the borrowed money.''

The question was put on the Motion No. 21 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62; NAYS: 130. (See list under Division No. 44)

The House proceeded to the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), -- That Bill C-17 be amended by deleting Clause 21.

The question was put on the Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 46)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

nil/aucun

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peterson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Péloquin -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Rock -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 192

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Asselin -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Crête -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Guay -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacAulay -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 27 to 30, 32, and 34 to 38 were negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 24 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 21, on page 10, with the following:

    ``(a) 57 per cent of the claimant's average".

The question was put on the Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 36; NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 43)

Accordingly, Motion No. 25 was negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 26 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 26, on page 11, the following:

      ``(1.1) For purposes of paragraph (1)(b), a claimant need only establish a prima facie entitlement to application of the rate of weekly benefit provided under that paragraph, whereupon the onus is on the Commission to establish that the claimant is not entitled to application of the rate of weekly benefit provided under that paragraph.''

The question was put on the Motion No. 26 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 36; NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 43)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 31 of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 26, be amended:

    (a) by replacing line 22, on page 13, with the following:
      ``48.1 (1) Notwithstanding section 48, the rate'';
    (b) by replacing lines 25 to 27, on page 13, with the following:
      ``(a) for the five month period beginning on January 1, 1994, 3.07 per cent of insurable earnings in that period;
      (b) for the seven month period beginning on June 1, 1994, 3 per cent of insurable earnings in that period;
      (c) for the year 1995, 3 per cent of insurable earnings in that year; and
      (d) for the year 1996, 3 per cent of insura-"; and
    (c) by adding after line 31, on page 13, the following:
      ``(2) For the purposes of applying subsection 50(1), section 51, paragraph 75(1)(p) and subsection 75(5) in respect of the year 1994, each period referred to in paragraphs (1)(a) and (b) shall be deemed to be a year within the meaning of those provisions.''

The question was put on the Motion No. 31 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 36; NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 43)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 33 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-17, in Clause 27, be amended by replacing line 36, on page 13, with the following:

    ``the House of Commons given by resolution of that House, make such regula-''.

The question was put on the Motion No. 33 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 36; NAYS: 156. (See list under Division No. 43)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), moved, -- That Bill C-17, An Act to amend certain statutes to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 22, 1994, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 47)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Madeleine) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Reed -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Rock -- Scott (Fredericton -- York Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 130

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Péloquin -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Sauvageau -- Silye -- Speaker -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 62

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Arseneault -- Asselin -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blondin-Andrew -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Crête -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Guay -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacAulay -- Ménard -- Nault -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, having been deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

By Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 1994-95 to 1995-96 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1994-95 of the Canada Lands Company Limited and its subsidiary Old Port of Montreal Corporation Inc., pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-852. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)


By Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report on the Operations of the Exchange Fund Account, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the year 1993, pursuant to subsection 21(1) of the Currency Act, Chapter C-52, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-133. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)


By Mr. Ouellet (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Copy of P.C. 1994-810, amending the Special Economic Measures (Haiti) Regulations, 1993, pursuant to section 7(9) of the Special Economic Measures Act, Chapter 17, Statutes of Canada, 1992. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-495G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).