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Minutes of Proceedings
Michelle Rempel Garner moved, — That in relation to the study referred to the committee by the House on October 26, 2020, the committee hold a meeting on or no later than November 27, 2020, in which the committee would invite the Law Clerk to appear for one hour in camera, and hold one hour of committee business.
Debate arose thereon.
Marcus Powlowski moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “in camera”.
Debate arose thereon.
The question was put on the amendment of Marcus Powlowski and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Barlow, Don Davies, Chris d'Entremont, Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Larry Maguire, Marcus Powlowski, Michelle Rempel Garner, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Tony Van Bynen — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
John Barlow moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “a meeting on or no later than November 27, 2020, in which the committee would invite the Law Clerk to appear for one hour in camera, and hold one hour of committee business” with the words “its first hearing by inviting the Law Clerk to appear for one hour on a panel of witnesses”.
Debate arose thereon.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Barlow, Don Davies, Chris d'Entremont, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel Garner, Luc Thériault — 6;
NAYS: Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Tony Van Bynen — 5.
The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Barlow, Don Davies, Chris d'Entremont, Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Larry Maguire, Marcus Powlowski, Michelle Rempel Garner, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Tony Van Bynen — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
The motion, as amended, read as follows:
That in relation to the study referred to the Committee by the House on October 26, 2020, the committee hold its first hearing by inviting the Law Clerk to appear for one hour on a panel of witnesses.
Don Davies moved, — Pursuant to the order of reference of Monday, October 26, 2020, the committee commence its study of the emergency situation facing Canadians in light of the second wave of the COVID-19 Pandemic in the following manner: (a) each party shall submit four topics ranked in order of priority by the close of business Wednesday, November 18, 2020; (b) each topic will be examined in turn and by priority, on the following rotation: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, NDP; (c) the committee will determine by majority vote the number of meetings allocated to each topic, holding a minimum of one meeting and a maximum of four meetings, unless determined by unanimous consent to hold additional meetings; (d) each party shall be entitled to an equal number of witnesses in accordance with the mandatory instruction from the House outlined in the order of reference of Monday, October 26, 2020; (e) all witnesses for the first round of prioritized topics shall be submitted within one week of the number of meetings for each topic being agreed to; and (f) once all four topics submitted by the four parties have been completed, the committee will determine if there are additional topics to be scheduled and, if so, will follow the process outlined in this motion once again.
Debate arose thereon.
Michelle Rempel Garner moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, NDP;” with the words “one topic by the Liberal Party, one topic by the Conservative Party, one topic by the Bloc Québécois, one topic by the NDP” and by replacing the words “and a maximum of four meetings,” with the words “and a maximum of three meetings,” and by adding after the words “this motion once again” the following: “g) that meetings related to the PMPRB study be held as extra meetings to the meetings scheduled for the COVID study, for example, on Monday evenings during available time slots, as determined by the clerk”.
Debate arose thereon.
The question was put on the amendment of Michelle Rempel Garner and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: John Barlow, Chris d'Entremont, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel Garner, Luc Thériault — 5;
NAYS: Don Davies, Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Tony Van Bynen — 6.
Michelle Rempel Garner moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “(b) each topic will be examined in turn and by priority, on the following rotation: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, NDP;” with the words “(b) Each topic be examined in turn and by priority on the following rotation: Liberal, Conservative, Bloc Québécois and NDP with no more than one topic per party per rotation”.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair declared it out of order as it was identical to the amendment by Michelle Rempel Garner that was defeated previously.
Whereupon, Michelle Rempel Garner appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Tony Van Bynen — 6;
NAYS: John Barlow, Don Davies, Chris d'Entremont, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel Garner — 5.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Don Davies, Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Tony Van Bynen — 7;
NAYS: John Barlow, Chris d'Entremont, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel Garner — 4.
It was agreed, — That the November 23 sitting be devoted to a technical briefing on the Patented Medicine Prices Review Board’s guidelines (PMPRB).
At 1:14 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.