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Minutes of Proceedings
The Committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 14 of the Bill.
Clause 14, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On Clause 15,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 15, be amended by replacing lines 13 to 18 on page 6 with the following:
“section 12, the Minister must prepare at least two assessment reports before 2030 and at least one assessment report per year between 2030 and 2050.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Kristina Michaud — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Matt Jeneroux, Lloyd Longfield, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
(a) replacing lines 20 and 21 on page 6 with the following:
“(a) a summary of Canada’s most recent official greenhouse gas emissions inventory and information, relevant to the report, that Canada submitted under its international commitments with respect to climate change;”
(b) adding after line 29 on page 6 the following:
“(c.1) an assessment of how the key cooperative measures or agreements with provinces or other governments in Canada described in the relevant emissions reduction plan contributed to Canada’s efforts to achieve the national greenhouse gas emissions target for that year;”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Ya'ara Saks and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
“(a.1) a summary of the measures undertaken by the governments of the provinces to contribute to Canada's efforts to achieve the national greenhouse gas emissions target for that year and of their impacts on those efforts;”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Brad Redekopp and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
“(c.1) an assessment of electric grids in Canada and the steps needed to ensure that they can manage an increase in electricity demand due to transportation electrification;”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Kristina Michaud, Brad Redekopp — 5;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 6.
After debate, Clause 15, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
Clause 16 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
After debate, Clause 17 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
After debate, Clause 18 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
Clause 19 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Kristina Michaud, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
At 5:18 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 5:28 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On Clause 20,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 8 on page 8 with the following:
“20 (1) There is established an expert advisory body whose mandate is to provide the Minister with expert advice with respect to achieving emissions reductions that are consistent with the conclusion drawn in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s special report on the impacts of global warming of 1.5°C of the need to achieve net-zero emissions by 2050, including expert”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Matt Jeneroux, Lloyd Longfield, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
Monique Pauzé moved, — That Bill C-12, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 6 on page 8 with the following:
“20 (1) There is established an independent expert committee whose”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Monique Pauzé and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Matt Jeneroux, Lloyd Longfield, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
(a) replacing lines 6 and 7 on page 8 with the following:
“Establishment and mandate
20 (1) There is established an advisory body, called the Net-Zero Advisory Body, whose mandate is to provide the Minister with independent advice with re-”
(b) replacing lines 9 to 13 on page 8 with the following:
“advice respecting
(a) greenhouse gas emissions targets under section 7;
(b) greenhouse gas emissions reduction plans under section 9, including measures and sectoral strategies that the Government of Canada could implement to achieve a greenhouse gas emissions target; and
(c) any matter referred to it by the Minister.
Engagement activities
(1.1) The advisory body’s mandate also includes conducting engagement activities related to achieving net-zero emissions.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Taylor Bachrach and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
“(2) The Governor in Council may, on the advice of the Minister, determine and amend the terms of”
The question was put on the amendment of Brad Redekopp and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4;
NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Thursday, October 8, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-12, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 15 on page 8 with the following:
“reference of the expert advisory body.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Matt Jeneroux, Lloyd Longfield, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
“reference of the advisory body and must make any terms of reference or amendments to those terms available to the public.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Yvan Baker and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Matt Jeneroux, Lloyd Longfield, Cathy McLeod, Monique Pauzé, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
“(3) The Net-Zero Advisory body must make recommendations to the Minister on all matters relating to
(a) the setting of a national greenhouse gas emissions target for each milestone year;
(b) the measures to be taken to achieve each target;
(c) the method for calculating greenhouse gas emissions;
(d) the tools for measuring progress; and
(e) the tools for assessing the impact of the reductions in greenhouse gas emissions.
(4) The Net-Zero Advisory body must base its recommendations on the best scientific knowledge and resources available and must have access to data and information relevant to addressing climate change held by the federal public administration.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Monique Pauzé and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Monique Pauzé — 1;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Matt Jeneroux, Lloyd Longfield, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 10.
Clause 20, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Yvan Baker, Chris Bittle, Lloyd Longfield, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Ya’ara Saks — 7;
NAYS: Dan Albas, Matt Jeneroux, Cathy McLeod, Brad Redekopp — 4.
On Clause 21,
Matt Jeneroux moved, — That Bill C-12, in Clause 21, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 18 on page 8 with the following:“21 (1) The Governor in Council fixes the remuneration of the members of the advisory body and appoints them as follows:
(a) six, on the recommendation of the Minister of the Environment;
(b) three, on the recommendation of the Minister of Industry;
(c) three, on the recommendation of the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations; and
(d) three, on the recommendation of the Minister of Finance.”
At 6:46 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.