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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 27
Monday, June 15, 2020, 12:02 p.m. to 3:01 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Ron McKinnon, Chair (Liberal)

• Luc Desilets (Bloc Québécois)
• Helena Jaczek (Liberal)
House of Commons
• Leif-Erik Aune, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Karin Phillips, Analyst
• Dominique Montpetit, Analyst
Correctional Service of Canada
• Anne Kelly, Commissioner
• Alain Tousignant, Senior Deputy Commissioner
• Jennifer Wheatley, Assistant Commissioner, Health Services
Parole Board of Canada
• Sylvie Blanchet, Executive Vice-Chairperson
• Daryl Churney, Executive Director General
Native Counselling Services of Alberta
• Marlene Orr, Director of Corrections
John Howard Society of Canada
• Catherine Latimer, Executive Director
Union of Safety and Justice Employees
• Stanley Stapleton, National President
• David Neufeld, National Vice-President and Regional Vice-President, Correctional Service of Canada Community and Parole Board of Canada - West
Pursuant to the order of reference of Monday, January 27, 2020, and the motion adopted by the committee on Wednesday, January 29, 2020, the committee resumed a briefing on the Canadian response to the outbreak of the coronavirus.

Anne Kelly, Alain Tousignant, Jennifer Wheatley, Sylvie Blanchet and Daryl Churney made statements and answered questions.

At 12:23 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:33 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Motion

Pierre Paul-Hus moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee order all documents, specifically briefing notes, background documents, memos and emails, prepared for the Deputy Minister of Public Safety and the Minister of Public Safety regarding the closure of the Canada – United States border which first came into effect on March 21, 2020, and for each subsequent extension; and that these documents be provided no later than August 10, 2020.

Amendment

Luc Thériault moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “and emails”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Luc Thériault and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Don Davies, Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Tony Van Bynen — 7;

NAYS: Tamara Jansen, Matt Jeneroux, Pierre Paul-Hus, Len Webber — 4.

Amendment

Mike Kelloway moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “August 10” with the words “August 31”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Mike Kelloway and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Darren Fisher, Mike Kelloway, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Tony Van Bynen — 5;

NAYS: Don Davies, Tamara Jansen, Matt Jeneroux, Pierre Paul-Hus, Luc Thériault, Len Webber — 6.

It was agreed, — That the clerk ensure the grammar of the motion is correct.

Amendment

Darren Fisher moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “August 10” the following: “provided that the government does its assessment and vetting in gathering and releasing the documents as it would be done through the access to information process”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Darren Fisher and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Darren Fisher, Tamara Jansen, Matt Jeneroux, Mike Kelloway, Pierre Paul-Hus, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Tony Van Bynen, Len Webber — 9;

NAYS: Don Davies, Luc Thériault — 2.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Don Davies, Darren Fisher, Tamara Jansen, Matt Jeneroux, Mike Kelloway, Pierre Paul-Hus, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Tony Van Bynen, Len Webber — 10;

NAYS: Luc Thériault — 1.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee order all documents, specifically briefing notes, background documents and memos, prepared for the Deputy Minister of Public Safety and the Minister of Public Safety regarding the closure of the Canada – United States border which first came into effect on March 21, 2020, and for each subsequent extension; and that these documents be provided no later than August 10, 2020, provided that the government does its assessment and vetting in gathering and releasing the documents as it would be done through the access to information process.

Motion

Pierre Paul-Hus moved, — That Public Safety Canada provide the committee with the total number of RCMP, CBSA and Correctional officers infected with COVID-19, broken down by cohort and province, between March 11 and June 15, 2020, and that these statistics be presented to the committee no later than July 10, 2020.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Don Davies, Darren Fisher, Tamara Jansen, Matt Jeneroux, Mike Kelloway, Pierre Paul-Hus, Marcus Powlowski, Sonia Sidhu, Luc Thériault, Tony Van Bynen, Len Webber — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

At 2:07 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 2:26 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Marlene Orr, Catherine Latimer, Stanley Stapleton and David Neufeld made statements.

At 3:01 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Erica Pereira
Committee Clerk