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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 135
Tuesday, November 27, 2018, 3:31 p.m. to 5:34 p.m.
Presiding
Robert Oliphant, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Julie Béchard, Analyst
• Madalina Chesoi, Analyst
• Ahmed Hussen, P.C., M.P., Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
Department of Citizenship and Immigration
• Harpreet Kochhar, Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations
• Paul MacKinnon, Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy
• Daniel Mills, Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Finance
• Marta Morgan, Deputy Minister
Pursuant to Standing Order 81(5), the Committee commenced consideration of the Supplementary Estimates (A), 2018-19: Votes 1a, 5a and 10a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration and Vote 1a under Immigration and Refugee Board, referred to the Committee on Wednesday, October 24, 2018.

The Chair called Vote 1a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration.

The Minister made a statement and, with Daniel Mills, answered questions.

Motion

Michelle Rempel moved, — That, pursuant to section 10(2) and 10(3) of the Parliament of Canada Act, the Minister be examined under oath for the remainder of this meeting.

At 3:53 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:02 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jenny Kwan, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 4;

NAYS: Ramez Ayoub, Frank Baylis, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 5.

The Minister answered questions.

A point of order was raised regarding the relevancy of the line of questioning.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled that the Member be allowed to continue in the line of questioning, provided that no member of the Committee should impugn the reputation of another member of Parliament either directly or indirectly.

Motion

Jenny Kwan moved, — That the Minister be invited to appear before the Committee, to discuss the Supplementary Estimates (A), 2018-19, for another hour.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jenny Kwan, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 4;

NAYS: Ramez Ayoub, Frank Baylis, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 5.

At 4:33 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:37 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Marta Morgan, Paul MacKinnon, Harpreet Kochhar and Daniel Mills answered questions.

The question: "Shall Vote 1a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration carry?" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ramez Ayoub, Greg Fergus, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 5;

NAYS: Jenny Kwan, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 4.

The Chair called Vote 5a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration.

The question: "Shall Vote 5a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration carry?" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ramez Ayoub, Greg Fergus, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 5;

NAYS: Jenny Kwan, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 4.

The Chair called Vote 10a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration.

The question: "Shall Vote 10a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration carry?" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ramez Ayoub, Greg Fergus, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 5;

NAYS: Jenny Kwan, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 4.

The Chair called Vote 1a under Immigration and Refugee Board.

The question: "Shall Vote 1a under Immigration and Refugee Board carry?" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ramez Ayoub, Greg Fergus, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 5;

NAYS: Jenny Kwan, Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 4.

The question: "Shall the Chair report the Supplementary Estimate (A), 2018-19 to the House?" was put and was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ramez Ayoub, Greg Fergus, Jenny Kwan, Marwan Tabbara, Nick Whalen, Salma Zahid — 6;

NAYS: Larry Maguire, Michelle Rempel, David Tilson — 3.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report Votes 1a, 5a and 10a under Department of Citizenship and Immigration and Vote 1a under Immigration and Refugee Board to the House.

At 5:34 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Evelyn Lukyniuk
Clerk of the Committee