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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
 
Meeting No. 41
 
Tuesday, May 1, 2012
 

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met in a televised session at 8:50 a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, David Christopherson, presiding.

 

Members of the Committee present: Jay Aspin, Joyce Bateman, Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe, Hon. Gerry Byrne, David Christopherson, Earl Dreeshen, Bryan Hayes, Daryl Kramp, Mathieu Ravignat, Andrew Saxton and Bev Shipley.

 

Acting Members present: Malcolm Allen for Glenn Thibeault.

 

Associate Members present: Chris Alexander and Hon. Laurie Hawn.

 

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Jeff Graham, Analyst; Alex Smith, Analyst.

 

Witnesses: Department of Industry: Simon Kennedy, Senior Associate Deputy Minister. Department of Public Works and Government Services: François Guimont, Deputy Minister, Deputy Receiver General for Canada; Tom Ring, Assistant Deputy Minister, Acquisitions Branch. Treasury Board Secretariat: Michelle d'Auray, Secretary of the Treasury Board of Canada. Department of National Defence: Robert Fonberg, Deputy Minister; Dan Ross, Assistant Deputy Minister, Materiel; Kevin Lindsey, Assistant Deputy Minister, Chief Financial Officer, Finance and Corporate Services; LGen André Deschamps, Commander, Royal Canadian Air Force.

 
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) and the motion adopted by the Committee on Thursday, April 19, 2012, the Committee resumed consideration of Chapter 2, Replacing Canada's Fighter Jets, of the Spring 2012 Report of the Auditor General of Canada referred to the Committee on Tuesday, April 3, 2012.
 

Robert Fonberg, LGen André Deschamps, François Guimont, Simon Kennedy and Michelle d'Auray made statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

 
The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.
 

Andrew Saxton moved, — That, in relation to its study of Chapter 2, Replacing Canada’s Fighter Jets, of the Spring 2012 Report of the Auditor General of Canada, the Committee organize its upcoming meetings as follows:

• that on Thursday, May 3, 2012, the Committee invite the Parliamentary Budget Officer to appear for one hour and invite the departmental witnesses before the Committee on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, to appear for one hour;

• that on Tuesday, May 8, 2012, the Committee invite the Auditor General of Canada to appear for one hour and that the Committee consider matters relating to Committee business for one hour.

 

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 11; NAYS: 0.

 

Gerry Byrne moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1)(a) and 108(3)(g) and Chapter 2, Replacing Canada’s Fighter Jets, of the Spring 2012 Report of the Auditor General of Canada, the Committee send for the following documents, in electronic form, from the Department of National Defence and the Department of Public Works and Government Services:

• The document that confirms the validity of the Statement of Operational Requirement.

• The actual statement of Operational Requirement.

• The full life-cycle cost analysis.

• The Statement of Work and Performance Specification (Acquisition and in-service support).

• The Bid Evaluation criteria.

• The Treasury Board Submission for the F-35.

• The requisition form for goods and services sent to Public Works and Government Services Canada from National Defence.

• The questionnaires explaining the decision to proceed with a sole-source process for this acquisition.

• The cost analysis for the infrastructure modification to operate the F-35.

• The risk analysis produced by National Defence and Public Works and Government Services for the acquisition of the F-35.

• The cost analysis to keep the actual CF-18 operational until 2023.

• The cost analysis for the phasing out of the CF-18.

• The option analysis for the replacement of the CF-18; and

That these documents be submitted to the Committee within the five calendar days following the adoption of this motion.

Debate arose thereon.

 

Andrew Saxton moved, — That the Committee do now adjourn.

 

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Jay Aspin, Joyce Bateman, Earl Dreeshen, Bryan Hayes, Daryl Kramp, Andrew Saxton, Bev Shipley — 7; NAYS: Malcolm Allen, Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe, Gerry Byrne, Mathieu Ravignat — 4.

 

At 10:44 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

 



Joann Garbig
Clerk of the Committee

 
 
2012/09/25 1:10 p.m.