HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 46

Monday, January 27, 2003

11:00 a.m.

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Prayers

Board of Internal Economy

The Speaker informed the House that, pursuant to the Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, S.C. 1997, c. 32, Mr. Guimond (Beauport—Montmorency—Côte-de-Beaupré—Île-d'Orléans) has been appointed a member of the Board of Internal Economy to replace Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue) .

Government Orders

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act.

Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Certificates of Election

The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Roger Gaudet (Berthier—Montcalm) .

Mr. Gaudet (Berthier—Montcalm) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.

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The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had received from the Chief Electoral Officer a certificate of the election of Mr. Sébastien Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) .

Mr. Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean--Saguenay) , having taken and subscribed the oath required by law, took his seat in the House.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That a debate pursuant to Standing Order 53.1 take place on Wednesday, January 29, 2003, concerning the situation in Iraq and that, after 9:00 p.m. on the said day, the Chair shall not receive any dilatory motions or quorum calls.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, — Performance Report of the Library of Parliament for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-89.

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The Speaker laid upon the Table, — Report of the Federal Electoral Boundaries Commission for Prince Edward Island 2003, pursuant to the Electoral Boundaries Readjustment Act, R. S. 1985, c. E-3, sbs. 21(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-459-03.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Caccia (Davenport) , from the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, presented the First Report of the Committee (Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, with amendments). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-31.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting Nos. 2 to 11) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0876);

— by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West) , one concerning childhood development programs (No. 372-0877);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0878);

— by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , two concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Nos. 372-0879 and 372-0880);

— by Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0881) and one concerning Bangladesh (No. 372-0882);

— by Mrs. Skelton (Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar) , one concerning health care services (No. 372-0883);

— by Mr. Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0884) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0885);

— by Mr. Caccia (Davenport) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-0886).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-41 to Q-44, Q-49 to Q-57, Q-73, Q-75, Q-76, Q-78 to Q-80, Q-84, Q-87 to Q-89, Q-92, Q-95 and Q-99 on the Order Paper.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the returns to the following questions made into Orders for Return:

Q-46 — Mr. Fournier (Manicouagan) — With regard to the cathodic protection system for the footings of the pier at St-Augustin on the Lower North Shore: (a) what are the costs associated with this system; (b) how does the system work; (c) what are the plans and specifications for its installation? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-46.

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Q-47 — Mr. Williams (St. Albert) — With regard to the rubric “Losses of Public Property Due to an Offence or Other Illegal Act” for the Department of National Defence as listed on page 3.24 of Volume II, Part II of the Public Accounts of Canada 2001-2002, and the following cases of theft: i) 1375 cases of “theft of military kit” totalling $164,286; ii) 19 cases of “theft of transportation equipment” totalling $4,450; iii) cases of “theft of construction engineering equipment” totalling $2,067; iv) 2 cases of “theft of construction engineering equipment” totalling $349; v) 9 cases of “theft of electrical equipment” totalling $3,896; vi) 11 cases of “theft of technical equipment” totalling $6,703; vii) 7 cases of “theft of tools” totalling $3,366; viii) 13 cases of “theft of weapons” totalling $631; ix) 106 cases of “theft of military specific equipment” totalling $11,698; x) 134 cases of “theft of non-military specific equipment” totalling $25,052; (a) what was stolen in each individual case; (b) what was the value of each individual item; (c) where was the location of the theft; and (d) were there any charges laid in the case? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-47.

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Q-74 — Mr. Mark (Dauphin—Swan River) — With respect to the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development: a) what are the land claims entitlements in Canada; b) what is the amount of compensation paid to each band; and c) how was this money spent by each individual band? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-74.

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Q-90 — Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) — With respect to the government's commitment in Throne Speech 2002 to “strengthen government science, integrating its efforts across departments and disciplines, and focussing on the priorities of Canadians”: (a) what steps have been taken to date to fulfill this commitment; (b) what has been accomplished; (c) what is the time frame alloted for completion of integration; and (d) has consideration been given to using science in the North as a pilot for general integration? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-90.

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Q-94 — Mr. Keddy (South Shore) — Can the government provide information on how many contaminated sites are in the riding of South Shore, Nova Scotia and the break down of the chemicals that are contaminating these sites? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-94.

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Q-96 — Mr. Keddy (South Shore) — Can the government provide information on how many contaminated sites are in the ridings of Berthier-Montcalm and Saint-Jean Saguenay, Quebec and the break down of the chemicals that are contaminating these sites? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-96.

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Q-97 — Mr. Keddy (South Shore) — With respect to the number of firearms related deaths in Canada can the government provide information concerning: (a) a statistical break down by year from 1990-2000; (b) how many were murders and how many were accidental; and (c) how many were the result of using a long gun versus a pistol? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-97.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 39(5), the failure of the Ministry to respond to the following question was deemed referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration:

Q-72 – Mr. Mark (Dauphin—Swan River) – With respect to the Department of Citizenship and Immigration: a) what provisions have been put in place in regards to the theft of documents from Canadian Immigration offices; and b) how are the documents that have been stolen from Canadian Immigration offices accounted for?

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Pursuant to Standing Order 39(5), the failure of the Ministry to respond to the following question was deemed referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts:

Q-85 – Mr. Williams (St. Albert) – For the following categories of items purchased either by Public Works and Government Services Canada for departments, agencies and Crown corporations, or by the individual department, agency or Crown corporation in fiscal years 2000-2001 and 2001-2002, namely, (1) teapots, (2) televisions, (3) briefcases, (4) umbrellas, (5) sewing machines, (6) microwaves, (7) flatware, (8) clothes hangers, (9) wine glasses, (10) cameras, both regular and digital, (11) golf balls, (12) golf tees, (13) beverages, alcoholic, (14) jams, jellies and preserves, (15) land mines, (16) games, toys and wheeled goods, (17) phonograph records, (18) perfumes, toilet preparations and powders: (a) by department, agency or Crown corporation, how many in each category were purchased; and (b) what was the total cost spent by either Public Works and Government Services Canada or another department, agency or Crown corporation on each category?

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Pursuant to Standing Order 39(5), the failure of the Ministry to respond to the following question was deemed referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development:

Q-91 – Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) – With respect to “smart regulations” cited in Throne Speech 2002, specifically regulations associated with environmental assessment processes: (a) what action is the government taking to ratify the Protocol on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty; (b) what departments are involved; (c) what government officials are involved; and (d) what is the time frame allotted for Canada's ratification?

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , — That Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After three minutes, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) , — That Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were deemed laid upon the Table on Wednesday, December 18, 2002:

— by Mr. Byrne (Minister of State (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)) — Reports of the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-323-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Byrne (Minister of State (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)) — Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 2002-03 to 2005-06 of the Cape Breton Growth Fund and of the Operating and Capital budgets for 2002-03, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). — Sessional Paper No. 8562-372-827-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology)

— by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) — Report of the President of the Treasury Board on Official Languages in Federal Institutions for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Official Languages Act, R.S. 1985, c. 31 (4th Supp.), s. 48. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-570-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were deemed laid upon the Table on Wednesday, January 22, 2003:

— by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) — Orders in Council concerning certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

— P.C. 2002-2014 and P.C. 2002-2015. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-1-05. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources)

— P.C. 2002-1993. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-2-05. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

— P.C. 2002-2008, P.C. 2002-2009, P.C. 2002-2010, P.C. 2002-2011, P.C. 2002-2012 and P.C. 2002-2013. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-3-06. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

— P.C. 2002-2023. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-7-03. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

— P.C. 2002-2019 and P.C. 2002-2020. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-9-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

— P.C. 2002-1994 and P.C. 2002-2018. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-8-07. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

— P.C. 2002-2006. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-4-05. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

— P.C. 2002-2004 and P.C. 2002-2005. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-16-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

— P.C. 2002-2024. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-22-06. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology)

— P.C. 2002-2016 and P.C. 2002-2017. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-13-04. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— P.C. 2002-2007. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-24-05. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport).

— by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-0498 and 372-0760 concerning the Divorce Act. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-27-02;

— Nos. 372-0527, 372-0718, 372-0719, 372-0755, 372-0756, 372-0797, 372-0840, 372-0841, 372-0870, 372-0872 and 372-0874 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-44-03;

— No. 372-0536 concerning the decontamination of lands. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-52-01;

— No. 372-0537 concerning cruelty to animals. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-28-02;

— Nos. 372-0553, 372-0554 and 372-0747 to 372-0750 concerning unborn children. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-30-03;

— Nos. 372-0571 and 372-0655 concerning pornography. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-25-12;

— Nos. 372-0596, 372-0658, 372-0732, 372-0779, 372-0785, 372-0792, 372-0818, 372-0825 and 372-0846 concerning marriage. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-40-02;

— Nos. 372-0640 and 372-0723 concerning the Canada Post Corporation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-1-09;

— No. 372-0648 concerning missing persons. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-53-01;

— No. 372-0665 concerning the Canadian Armed Forces. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-54-01;

— Nos. 372-0666 and 372-0682 concerning the commercial development of land. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-55-01;

— Nos. 372-0672, 372-0679, 372-0691, 372-0693, 372-0706, 372-0709, 372-0731, 372-0733, 372-0735 to 372-0741, 372-0754, 372-0757, 372-0764, 372-0768, 372-0777, 372-0778, 372-0784, 372-0791, 372-0794, 372-0806, 372-0813, 372-0823, 372-0842, 372-0848 to 372-0850, 372-0852, 372-0863 and 372-0868 concerning stem cell research. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-14-21;

— Nos. 372-0674 to 372-0677, 372-0683 to 372-0686 and 372-0694 to 372-0696 concerning aboriginal affairs. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-7-06;

— No. 372-0715 concerning the income tax system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-34-02;

— Nos. 372-0724 to 372-0729 concerning the criminal justice system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-56-01;

— Nos. 372-0759 and 372-0765 concerning the Canadian Coast Guard. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-32-07;

— No. 372-0804 concerning children's rights. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-43-02;

— No. 372-0819 concerning the sexual exploitation of minors. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-45-03.

— by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) — Report on the receipts and disbursements of the Office of the Auditor General and the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Auditor General Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-17, sbs. 21(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-100-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

— by Mr. Thibault (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) — Revised response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Sixth Report of the Standing Joint Committee for the Scrutiny of Regulations, (Aboriginal Communal Fishing Licences Regulations) (Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-170), presented to the House on Monday, June 3, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-170-01.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) — Report of the National Arts Centre, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended August 31, 2002, pursuant to the National Arts Centre Act, R. S. 1985, c. N-3, sbs. 17(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-179-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

— by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West) , one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 372-0887).

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:00 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).