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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting No. 3
Thursday, November 21, 2002
The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met at 3:37 p.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, John Williams, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Odina Desrochers, John Finlay, Paul Forseth, Mac Harb, Gerald Keddy, Sophia Leung, Philip Mayfield, Val Meredith, Shawn Murphy, Alex Shepherd and John Williams.
Acting Member present: John Maloney for Sophie Leung.
In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Brian O’Neal and Jean Dupuis, Analysts.
Witnesses: From the Office of the Auditor General: Sheila Fraser, Auditor General of Canada; Maria Barrados, Assistant Auditor General; Richard Flageole, Assistant Auditor General; Hugh McRoberts, Assistant Auditor General.
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee commenced consideration of the October 2002 Status Report of the Auditor General of Canada to the House of Commons.
Sheila Fraser made a statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.
The Chair presented the First Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure, as follows:
The Sub-Committee met on Thursday, November 21, 2002 and agreed to make the following recommendations:
1) - That the matter of a response to the letter from the lawyer of Charles Guité be referred to the Committee.
2) - That the 25th and 26th Reports from the First Session which were not presented, be renumbered as the First and Second Reports of the Second Session; that the Chair be authorized to make editorial changes and that the Chair present the Reports to the House.
3) - That outstanding draft reports be considered at meetings scheduled for November 28, December 5 and December 10, 2002.
4) - That the Public Accounts of Canada 2001-2002 be considered on November 26, 2002.
5) - That the Committee meet on Tuesday, December 3, 2002 with the Auditor General respecting the Report of the Auditor General of Canada to be tabled that day in the House of Commons.
On motion of Philip Mayfield, it was agreed, - That the Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure be concurred in.
Mac Harb moved, - That the Chair, two members of the Government party, one other Opposition member, the Clerk and one analyst travel to Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra, Australia from January 29 to February 9, 2003 to attend the 7th Biennial Conference of the Australasian Council of Public Accounts Committees.
Gerald Keddy moved, - That the motion be amended by inserting after the works “one other Opposition member” the following:
“and a member of the Bloc Quebecois, the New Democratic Party and the Progressive Conservative Party,”
After debate, the question being put on the amendment, it was negatived by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS 6.
The question being put on the main motion, it was agreed to by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS 1.
By unanimous consent, it was agreed, - That a Travel Budget not exceeding $83,000 be adopted; that the Chair and the Clerk be authorized to finalize the amount, and that the Chair seek the necessary funds.
By unanimous consent, it was agreed, - That a member of the Bloc Quebecois, the New Democractic Party and the Progressive Conservative Party be represented on the delegation to the Conference of the Australasian Council of Public Accounts Committees.
At 5:14 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Richard Rumas
Clerk of the Committee