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MINUTES OF
PROCEEDINGS
Meeting No. 35
Thursday, October 25,
2001
The Standing Committee on Justice and Human
Rights met in a televised session at 9:37 a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre
Block, the Chair, Andy Scott, presiding.
Members of the Committee present: Carole-Marie Allard, Michel Bellehumeur, Bill
Blaikie, Chuck Cadman, Irwin Cotler, Paul DeVillers, Ivan Grose, Peter MacKay,
John Maloney, John McKay, Lynn Myers, Stephen Owen, Denis Paradis, Andy Scott,
Kevin Sorenson, Myron Thompson, Vic Toews.
Acting Members present: Brian Fitzpatrick for Myron Thompson.
Associate Members present: Derek Lee.
In attendance:
From Committees and Legislative Services: Richard Dupuis,
Legislative Clerk. From the Library of Parliament: Philip Rosen,
senior analyst.
Appearing: From
the Department of Finance: Jim Peterson, Secretary of State
(International Financial Institution). From the Canada Customs and
Revenue Agency : The Hon. Martin Cauchon, Minister of National Revenue,
Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.
Witnesses: From
the Department of Finance Canada: Yvan Roy, Assistant Deputy Minister
and Counsel to the Department of Finance; Richard Lalonde, Chief, Financial
Crimes, Financial Sector Policy Branch; Robert Dubrule, Senior Tax Policy
Officer, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch; Brian Ernewein, Director,
Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch; Charles Seeto, Director, Financial
Sector Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch; Horst Intscher, Director,
Financial transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada; Yvon Carrière,
Senior Counsel, Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada. From
the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada:
Alain Prévost, General Counsel. From the Royal Canadian Mounted Police:
Dave Beer, Superintendent, Proceeds of Crime Branch. From the Department
of the Solicitor General of Canada: Paul Kennedy, Senior Assistant
Deputy Solicitor General, Policing and Security; Ian Blackie, Chief,
Counter-Terrorism Policy. From the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency:
Ed Gauthier, Acting Assistant Commissioner, Policy and Legislation Branch;
Donna Walsh, Director, Special Compliance Initiative Division, Charities
Director, Policy and Legislation Branch.
Pursuant
to its Order of Reference of Thursday, October 18, 2001, the Committee resumed
consideration of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official
Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering)
Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of
charities in order to combat terrorism (See Minutes of Proceedings,
Thursday, October 18, 2001, Meeting No. 29).
The
Honourable Jim Peterson made a statement and with Yvan Roy, Richard Lalonde,
Charles Seeto, Horst Intscher, answered questions.
At
11:31 a.m., the sitting was suspended.
At
11:37 a.m., the sitting resumed.
The
Honourable Martin Cauchon made a statement and, with the other witnesses,
answered questions.
At
12:52 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At
1:00 p.m., the sitting resumed, in camera.
Ordered
- That pursuant to the Order of the House of Wednesday, September 26, 2001, the
Chair request by means of a report to the House, a two week extension to the
deadline of November 30, 2001, for reporting Bill C-15B, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty
to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act.
Agreed
- that officials from the office of the Attorney Generals of the provinces of
Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia be invited to speak to Bill C-36.
Agreed
- that the proposed work plan for Bills C-36 and C-15B as well as the witness
list for Bill C-36 be adopted with the agreement that these would be reviewed
if the Committee receives the extension requested from the House of Commons for
reporting of Bill C-15B.
At
1:30 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.
Catherine Barrette / Marie Danielle Vachon
Clerks of the Committee