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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

JOURNALS

No. 060

Monday, February 16, 1998

11:00 a.m.

PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Keddy (South Shore), seconded by Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should instigate a study of non- tariff trade barriers to the European Common Market, specifically the ban by the European Common Market of Canadian forest products that have bark or needles attached. (Private Members' Business M-181)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

INTERRUPTION

At 11:54 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:00 p.m., the sitting resumed.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry of Bill C-21, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act.

Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0222, 361-0236, 361-0251, 361-0263 and 361-0268 concerning the Canada Pension Plan. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-5B.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Mahoney (Mississauga West), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), Bill C-358, An Act to amend the Copyright Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 361-0443);

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton), one concerning euthanasia (No. 361- 0444);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning police and firefighters' death benefits (No. 361-0445);

-- by Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), one concerning the Canada Pension Plan (No. 361-0446) and one concerning radio and television programming (No. 361-0447).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-37 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of the Environment), -- That Bill C-21, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

The debate continued.

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, February 12, 1998, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage and second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding before line 4 on page 1 the following:

``0.1 The Canadian Wheat Board Act is amended by replacing the enacting phrase with the following:

WHEREAS agriculture is a basic foundation stone of the Canadian economy; and

WHEREAS interprovincial and export trade in grain produced in Canada is an essential element of the agricultural sector of the economy, and

WHEREAS it is necessary to establish an organization to coordinate such trade; and

WHEREAS such an organization will have a very significant effect on the producers of grain and must therefore have the securing of the best financial return to them as its object and first priority and must be accountable to them for its performance.

THEREFORE Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 73)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 112

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 131

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Cannis -- Copps -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Desrochers -- Finestone -- Graham -- Lalonde -- Loubier -- Marceau -- O'Brien -- (Labrador) -- Parrish -- Perron -- Stewart -- (Brant) -- Telegdi -- Tremblay -- (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Ur -- Venne

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by deleting Clause 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 74)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 95

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Gray -- (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 149 .Paired74

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 31 and 41 were also negatived on the same division.

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended

``3.02 (1) The directors are elected in accordance with section 3.06 to 3.08 and the regulations. The president shall be appointed by the board.''

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 75)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Vellacott -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 62

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 182

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 7 to 14 on page 3 with the following:

``3.02(1) Fifteen directors are elected in accordance with sections 3.06 to 3.08 and the regulations. The president shall be appointed by the board in consultation with the Minister.''

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 76)

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Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 181

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 3 with the following:

``sultation with the other directors, and following the approval of the committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to agriculture.''

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 77)

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Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Charest -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marchand -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 66

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 177

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by deleting lines 22 to 24 on page 3.

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 78)

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NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 183

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 12 and 13 on page 4 with the following:

``rum at the meetings, which shall be at least two-thirds of the board members and a ratio of two elected directors to one appointed director, and the confidentiality''

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 9 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 24 on page 4 with the following:

The question was put on Motion No. 9 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended

``(2) Producers shall be eligible for votes based on the following levels of production: For the purposes of this Act, 1 tonne of grain is defined as 1 tonne of wheat or 1.5 tonnes of barley. A producer will be eligible for 1 vote if they grow or market a minimum of 50 tonnes of grain in a given year. This information will be obtained from permit book records or in a signed affidavit submitted by the producer.''

`` -- (3) After the date referred to in section 3.08,''

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 79)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Hart -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Vellacott -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 48

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 195

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 35 to 40 on page 4 with the following:

``the board, in consultation with the Minister, shall make regulations respecting the election of directors, including geographical representation on the board and the staggering of the terms of office of directors.''

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 41 to 45 on page 4 with the following:

``3.07 After the date referred to in section 3.08, the board, in consultation with the Minister, shall determine the proper conduct and supervision of an election of directors, including''

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 13 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 5 the following:

``(3) Directors shall be elected by producers on the basis of one vote per producer permit book

(4) There shall be limits placed on the expenditures made by any candidate for election to the Board of Directors.

(5) There shall be limits placed on the expenditures made by any third parties toward the election of candidates to the Board of Directors.''

The question was put on Motion No. 13 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 80)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Charest -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Earle -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Lill -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Nystrom -- Price -- Proctor -- Riis -- Solomon -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 32

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 211

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 18 and 19 on page 5 with the following:

``the pleasure of the board of directors for such term that the board of directors may determine.''

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 15 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 18 and 19 on page 5 with the following:

``pleasure for the term that the board of directors may determine.''

The question was put on Motion No. 15 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 35 on page 5 with the following:

``(2) The president shall implement measures to include the Canadian Wheat Board as a signatory to the International Code of Ethics for Canadian Business, no later than six months following the first election of the Board of Directors.''

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 36 to 41 on page 5 with the following:

``(3) If the president is absent or unable to act or the office of president is vacant, the board of directors, in consultation with the Minister, may appoint an interim president. An interim president shall not act for more than ninety days, unless approved by the board.''

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 18 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 6 with the following:

``view to the best interests of producers;''

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 19 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 9 on page 6 the following:

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

Group No. 5

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis- Hébert), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 37 on page 7 the following:

``(4) Notwithstanding subsection (2), a department within the meaning of the Financial Administration Act includes the Board for the purposes of the Auditor General Act.''

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 95, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 74)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 21 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon- -Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 38 and 39 on page 7 with the following:

``5. The heading before section 5 and section 5 of the Act are replaced with the following:

5. The Corporation is incorporated with the object of marketing grain grown in Canada in the best interests of farmers, to maximize their returns.''

The question was put on Motion No. 21 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 22 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 38 and 39 on page 7 with the following:

`` 5. The heading before section 5 and section 5 of the Act are replaced with the following:

5. The Corporation is incorporated with the object of marketing, in the best interests of producers, grain grown within the designated area.''

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 81)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 114

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 128

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 23 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing lines 38 and 39 on page 7 with the following:

``5. Section 5 of the Act and the heading preceding it are by the following:

5. The object of the Corporation is to secure the best financial return to the producers of grain in Canada by marketing the grain in an orderly and coordinated manner in interprovincial and export trade, in accordance with this Act, on behalf of the producers of the grain and its operations shall be carried out with this as its first priority.''

The question was put on Motion No. 23 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 6, be amended

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 25 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 6, be amended by deleting lines 28 to 46 on page 8 and lines 1 to 11 on page 9.

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 82)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Cadman -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Hardy -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 80

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Grose -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 162

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 26 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 6, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 7 on page 9.

The question was put on Motion No. 26 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 80, NAYS: 162. (See list under Division No. 82)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 27 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

The question was put on Motion No. 27 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 28 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 17 and 18 on page 9 with the following:

``7. Section 7 of the Act is replaced by the following:''

7. (1) Subject to the regulations, the Corporation shall sell and dispose of grain acquired by it pursuant its operations under this Act for such prices as it considers reasonable in order to fulfil its object set out in section 5.

(1.1) Subsection (1) shall not be interpreted to prevent the Corporation making a contract to sell a type of grain at a price that is lower than normal in order to secure other sales of the same type of grain that will result in the best return to producers of that type over a period of time.

The question was put on Motion No. 28 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 29 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 25 to 27 on page 9 with the following:

``made elsewhere in this Act, shall be used to maximize the return on the sale of grain to producers of the wheat by such means as the Corporation may determine, including the making of additional payments to the persons who are entitled to receive payments in respect of the wheat sold in that crop year by the Corporation.''

The question was put on Motion No. 29 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 30 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 7, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 39 on page 9 with the following:

``(3) Losses sustained by the Corporation

for which no provision is made in any other Part, shall be paid out of moneys provided by Parliament.''

The question was put on Motion No. 30 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 32, NAYS: 211. (See list under Division No. 80)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 32 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding after line 3, on page 10, the following:

The question was put on Motion No. 32 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 83)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 96

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Grose -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 145

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 33 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon- -Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing lines 6 to 15 on page 10 with the following:

``10. Section 18 of the act is repealed.''

The question was put on Motion No. 33 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

Accordingly, Motion No. 34 was also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 45 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding after line 40, on page 21, the following:

``30.1 (1) The Auditor General for Canada Shall examine the operations of the Corporation over the five year period ending December 31, 2002 and shall determine whether the Corporation has met its object as described in section 5, and report to the Minister thereon no later than September 1, 2003.

(2) The minister shall cause the report to be laid before both Houses of parliament on one of the first three days on which the House next sits.

(3) The report shall be deemed referred to such committee of the House of Commons as is established to consider matters relating to agriculture.

(4) Unless the committee has reported to the House and the House as concurred in the report or amended the report and concurred in it as amended by December 31, 2003 and the report or amended report is in a form that concludes that the Corporation has substantially met its object for the five year period, this Act is repealed on June 30, 2004.

(5) If the Governor in Council determines that the process described in subsections (1) to (4) has been delayed by emergency circumstances, the Governor in Council may, by order, defer the repeal of this Act by a period not exceeding twelve months.''

The question was put on Motion No. 45 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 95, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 74)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 47 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 36, be amended by deleting lines 6 to 21 on page 24.

The question was put on Motion No. 47 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 80, NAYS: 162. (See list under Division No. 82)

Group No. 6

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 35 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing lines 16 to 19 on page 12 with the following:

````period'' means a crop year''

The question was put on Motion No. 35 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 66, NAYS: 177. (See list under Division No. 77)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 36 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 18, be amended by replacing line 2 on page 13 with the following:

``order of the Corporation with the approval of the Minister and the Minister of Finance.''

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 84)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Mancini -- Marchand -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Riis -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 52

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Charest -- Chatters -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Obhrai -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Patry -- Penson -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Whelan -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 189

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 37 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon- -Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 19, be amended by adding after line 31 on page 15 the following:

``(5) Section 33 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (5):

(6) The Corporation may enter into an agreement with a producer, at the beginning of a crop year, authorizing the producer to market independently of the Corporation, a specified percentage of the wheat or barley produced by that producer in that crop year.''

The question was put on Motion No. 37 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 38 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 22, be amended

``39. If producers of any grain sold and,''

``separate account, and distribute to them in an equitable manner any balance remaining in the separate account after such payments have been made.''

The question was put on Motion No. 38 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 95, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 74)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 39 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 22, be amended by deleting lines 20 to 27 on page 17.

The question was put on Motion No. 39 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 52, NAYS: 189. (See list under Division No. 84)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 40 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 17 the following:

``39.2 (1) The Corporation shall establish a plan for wheat pricing which shall have the following features:

(2) The Corporation shall establish, annually, the portion of each producer's wheat which each individual producer will be allowed to hedge under this program.

(3) The Corporation shall establish the terms and conditions under which the hedge position of the producer is to be assumed by the Corporation.''

The question was put on Motion No. 40 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

Group No. 7

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 42 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding after line 16, on page 18, the following:

``24.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 45:

45.1 (1) A producer may, in the form prescribed by the regulations, elect to be excluded, with respect to one or more types of grain, from the operation of this Part, for a period of not less than five years.

(2) An election under this subsection may be terminated only by two years notice in the form prescribed by the regulations.

(3) The Corporation shall establish procedures to preserve the identity of grain from producers who have made an election under subsection (1) and to prevent co-mingling of grain from producers who have made such an election.''

The question was put on Motion No. 42 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 62, NAYS: 183. (See list under Division No. 78)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 43 of Mr. Borotsik (Brandon- -Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by deleting Clause 26.

The question was put on Motion No. 43 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 85)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 44 of Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 26, be amended by deleting lines 30 to 34 on page 19.

The question was put on Motion No. 44 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 32, NAYS: 211. (See list under Division No. 80)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 46 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis- Hébert), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding before line 1 and the heading ``Agricultural Marketing Program Act'' on page 22 the following:

``Access to Information Act

30.1 Schedule I to the Access to Information Act is amended by adding the following in alphabetical order under the heading ``Other Government Institutions'':

Canadian Wheat Board

Canadian Wheat Board''

The question was put on Motion No. 46 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 95, NAYS: 149. (See list under Division No. 74)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 48 of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 36, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 27 on page 24 with the following:

``(5) Section 9 of this Act comes into force on the date on which the first directors elected assume office pursuant to section 3.08 of the Canadian Wheat Board Act, as enacted by section 3 of this Act.''

The question was put on Motion No. 48 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 112, NAYS: 131. (See list under Division No. 73)

Mr. Goodale (Minister responsible for the Canadian Wheat Board), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as amended, be concurred in at report stage and read a second time.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 86)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger -- (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour -- (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay -- (Scarborough East) -- McLellan -- (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills -- (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien -- (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard -- (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Saada -- Scott -- (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart -- (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 127

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Axworthy -- (Saskatoon -- Rosetown -- Biggar) -- Bachand -- (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand -- (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier -- (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier -- (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz -- (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz -- (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Charest -- Chatters -- Chrétien -- (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Dubé -- (Lévis) -- Dubé -- (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin -- (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey -- (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill -- (Macleod) -- Hill -- (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy -- (South Shore) -- Kenney -- (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Lill -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay -- (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Manning -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin -- (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin -- (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills -- (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Picard -- (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott -- (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay -- (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White -- (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 113

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage, read the second time and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report on the Operations of the Small Businesses Loans Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Small Businesses Loans Act, R.S. 1985, c. S-11, s. 11. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-240. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 8:05 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 8:13 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).