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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 201

Monday, May 15, 1995

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:07 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Ms. Bridgman (Surrey North), seconded by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should consider allowing the provinces greater flexibility in the provision of health insurance and services. (Private Members' Business M-424)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Transport of Bill C-89, An Act to provide for the continuance of the Canadian National Railway Company under the Canada Business Corporations Act and for the issuance and sale of shares of the Company to the public.

Pursuant to Standing Order 73(1), Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), moved, -- That the Bill be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Transport.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until later today, at 6:30 p.m.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2879 to 351-2882, 351-2887, 351-2904, 351-2907, 351-2908, 351-2912, 351-2917, 351-2919, 351-2933, 351-2945, 351-2947, 351-2954, 351-2978, 351-2979, 351-2980 and 351-2989 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-50Z.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2857 to 351-2859 concerning voice mail. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-95D.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2790 concerning insurance companies. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-123.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), Bill C-91, An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to continue the Federal Business Development Bank under the name Business Development Bank of Canada''.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Assadourian (Don Valley North), seconded by Mr. Lee (Scarborough -- Rouge River), Bill C-325, An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 351-3193);

-- by Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3194);

-- by Mrs. Brushett (Cumberland -- Colchester), one concerning immigration (No. 351-3195);

-- by Mrs. Jennings (Mission -- Coquitlam), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-3196);

-- by Mr. Bélair (Cochrane -- Superior), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3197);

-- by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster -- Burnaby), one concerning government spending (No. 351-3198) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-3199);

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3200).

Presenting Reports from Committees

By unanimous consent, Mrs. Bakopanos (Saint-Denis), from the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, presented the 5th Report of the Committee (Order-in-Council appointments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-105.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 47, which includes this Report) was tabled.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of National Defence and Minister of Veterans Affairs), seconded by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), -- That Bill C-67, An Act to establish the Veterans Review and Appeal Board, to amend the Pension Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal the Veterans Appeal Board Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until later today, at 6:30 p.m.


The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 5, 6 and 7).

Group No. 4

Motion No. 5 of Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing lines 29 to 39, on page 15, with the following:

      ``23. Subsection 37(4) of the Act is replaced''.

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 15, on page 16, with the following:

    ``the Minister shall, unless the person has''.

Motion No. 7 of Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by adding after line 20, on page 16, the following:

      ``(5) Within the first 30 days that the House of Commons sits in a fiscal year the Minister shall lay before the House a report showing:
      (a) the number of remissions and the total of all amounts remitted during the preceding fiscal year pursuant to paragraphs (4)(a), (b) and (c);
      (b) the recommendation of the Minister as to the number of remissions and the total of all remissions to be made in the fiscal year under paragraph (4)(d) as a result of erroneous advice or administrative error made in the preceding fiscal year;
      (c) the recommendations of the Minister as to how the number and amount of remissions under paragraph (4)(d) may be reduced.
      (6) The report of the Minister shall be referred to such committee of the House that the House may name for the purpose, which shall recommend a limit in the amount of remissions that may be made under paragraph (4)(d) in the fiscal year.
      (7) The Minister may not remit any amount in a fiscal year pursuant to paragraph (4)(d) prior to the date a recommendation has been made by a committee pursuant to subsection (6) for the fiscal year.
      (8) The Minister may not remit any amount in a fiscal year pursuant to paragraph (4)(d) that would cause the total amount of remissions to exceed the limit recommended by the committee for that year.''

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), moved the following amendment to Motion No. 7, -- That the motion be amended by deleting new Subsections 7 and 8.

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 4.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 7 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 5

Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-54 be amended by deleting Clause 38.

Debate arose on the motion in Group No. 5.

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the deferred recorded divisions were further deferred until later today, at 6:30 p.m.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry of Bill C-88, An Act to implement the Agreement on Internal Trade.

Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

Debate arose thereon.


At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45(6), the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 214)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Madeleine) -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marleau -- The Sydneys) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 117

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 65

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

Pursuant to Standing Order 61(2), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 215)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc(Cape/Cap-Breton -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Highlands -- Canso) -- Lefebvre -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 144

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Althouse -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- de Jong -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Stinson -- Taylor -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 40

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services and Minister for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency), -- That Bill C-89, An Act to provide for the continuance of the Canadian National Railway Company under the Canada Business Corporations Act and for the issuance and sale of shares of the Company to the public, be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Transport.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 216)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Highlands -- Canso) -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Manning -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Young -- Zed -- 155

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Manning -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Young -- Zed -- 159

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

Accordingly, the Bill was referred to the Standing Committee on Transport.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of National Defence and Minister of Veterans Affairs), seconded by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), -- That Bill C-67, An Act to establish the Veterans Review and Appeal Board, to amend the Pension Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal the Veterans Appeal Board Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 144, NAYS: 40. (See list under Division No. 215)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 1, be amended by deleting lines 11 to 16, on page 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 217)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bélisle -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- -- Venne -- 25

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 3, 8, 9, 10, 11, 14, 16 and 17 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Bevilacqua (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Human Resources Development), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 3, be amended by striking out line 21, on page 2, and substituting the following:

    ``on the first day of the fourth month after the month in which this Act is assented to.''

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(3)
)

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in an amendment to Clause 3 of Bill C-54, ``An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act'', whereby line 21 on page 2 is struck out and the following substituted therefore:
      ``on the first day of the fourth month after the month in which this Act is assented to.''

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 218)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 148

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 36

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 4 of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 9, on page 12, with the following:

    ``sion or Statistics Canada,''.

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 159. (See list under Division No. 217)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 13 and 15 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing lines 29 to 39, on page 15, with the following:

      ``23. Subsection 37(4) of the Act is replaced''.

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 159. (See list under Division No. 217)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 15, on page 16, with the following:

    ``the Minister shall, unless the person has''.

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 159. (See list under Division No. 217)

The House resumed consideration of Motion No. 7 of Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by adding after line 20, on page 16, the following:

      ``(5) Within the first 30 days that the House of Commons sits in a fiscal year the Minister shall lay before the House a report showing:
      (a) the number of remissions and the total of all amounts remitted during the preceding fiscal year pursuant to paragraphs (4)(a), (b) and (c);
      (b) the recommendation of the Minister as to the number of remissions and the total of all remissions to be made in the fiscal year under paragraph (4)(d) as a result of erroneous advice or administrative error made in the preceding fiscal year;
      (c) the recommendations of the Minister as to how the number and amount of remissions under paragraph (4)(d) may be reduced.
      (6) The report of the Minister shall be referred to such committee of the House that the House may name for the purpose, which shall recommend a limit in the amount of remissions that may be made under paragraph (4)(d) in the fiscal year.
      (7) The Minister may not remit any amount in a fiscal year pursuant to paragraph (4)(d) prior to the date a recommendation has been made by a committee pursuant to subsection (6) for the fiscal year.
      (8) The Minister may not remit any amount in a fiscal year pursuant to paragraph (4)(d) that would cause the total amount of remissions to exceed the limit recommended by the committee for that year.''

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), -- That the motion be amended by deleting new Subsections 7 and 8.

The question was put on the amendment to Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 25, NAYS: 159. (See list under Division No. 217)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 7 of Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), -- That Bill C-54, in Clause 23, be amended by adding after line 20, on page 16, the following:

      ``(5) Within the first 30 days that the House of Commons sits in a fiscal year the Minister shall lay before the House a report showing:
      (a) the number of remissions and the total of all amounts remitted during the preceding fiscal year pursuant to paragraphs (4)(a), (b) and (c);
      (b) the recommendation of the Minister as to the number of remissions and the total of all remissions to be made in the fiscal year under paragraph (4)(d) as a result of erroneous advice or administrative error made in the preceding fiscal year;
      (c) the recommendations of the Minister as to how the number and amount of remissions under paragraph (4)(d) may be reduced.
      (6) The report of the Minister shall be referred to such committee of the House that the House may name for the purpose, which shall recommend a limit in the amount of remissions that may be made under paragraph (4)(d) in the fiscal year.
      (7) The Minister may not remit any amount in a fiscal year pursuant to paragraph (4)(d) prior to the date a recommendation has been made by a committee pursuant to subsection (6) for the fiscal year.
      (8) The Minister may not remit any amount in a fiscal year pursuant to paragraph (4)(d) that would cause the total amount of remissions to exceed the limit recommended by the committee for that year.''

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 219)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- Epp -- Frazer -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Manning -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Thompson -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 36

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la- -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Madeleine) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lee -- Lefebvre -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 148

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred division on Motion No. 12 of Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau), seconded by Mrs. Lalonde (Mercier), -- That Bill C-54 be amended by deleting Clause 38.

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 220)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bélisle -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Solomon -- Taylor -- Venne -- 29

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Highlands -- Canso) -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Manning -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- Young -- Zed -- 155

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act, the Canada Pension Plan, the Children's Special Allowances Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, as amended, be concurred in at report stage, with a further amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 221)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Althouse -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Comuzzi -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacLaren -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murray -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solomon -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 123

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Schmidt -- Silye -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Thompson -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 61

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Anderson -- Bachand -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Canuel -- Caron -- Cauchon -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dubé -- Gaffney -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- MacAulay -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- Mifflin -- Minna -- Murphy -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Peric -- Pomerleau -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Volpe -- Wells -- Wood

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage, with a further amendment, and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:20 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:30 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).