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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 170

Monday, March 20, 1995

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

The Speaker informed the House that, in accordance with the representation made by the government pursuant to Standing Order 55(1), he had caused to be published a special Order Paper giving notice of introduction of a Government Bill.

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Letter from the Government House Leader, dated March 18, 1995, concerning a notice of introduction of a Government Bill. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530- 351-31.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:05 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), seconded by Mr. Hoeppner (Lisgar -- Marquette), -- That Bill C-262, An Act to provide for the settlement of labour disputes affecting the export of grain by arbitration and to amend the Public Service Staff Relations Act in consequence thereof, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.

The debate continued.

At 11:53 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 169)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Cummins -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Grubel -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hoeppner -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- Thompson -- Williams -- 31

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brien -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Deshaies -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- English -- Fillion -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gerrard -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guay -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Irwin -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Landry -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- Loubier -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Manley -- McKinnon -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Nault -- Nunez -- O'Brien -- Parrish -- Paré -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Richardson -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- St-Laurent -- Steckle -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Walker -- Wood -- Young -- 91

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chan -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- Easter -- Fry -- Jackson -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- MacLaren -- Peric -- Simmons -- Szabo -- Tobin -- Ur -- Volpe -- de Savoye

MOTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 53, Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That the forty-eight hours' notice be waived in order to permit the Minister of Labour to introduce immediately a Bill entitled ``An Act to provide for the maintenance of railway operations and subsidiary services''; and

That the House not adjourn this day except pursuant to a motion by a Minister of the Crown.

Debate arose thereon.

At 1:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 53(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and, more than 10 Members having risen to object, pursuant to Standing Order 53(4), the motion was deemed withdrawn.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-73, An Act to provide borrowing authority for the fiscal year beginning on April 1, 1995, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance without amendment.

Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 170)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bellemare -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chrétien (Saint-Maurice) -- Clancy -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gerrard -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Irwin -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Maloney -- Manley -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- Ouellet -- Parrish -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Wood -- Young -- 93

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Benoit -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Cummins -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Godin -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Landry -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Ringma -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Thompson -- Venne -- Williams -- 52

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chan -- Crête -- Culbert -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- Easter -- Fry -- Jackson -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- MacLaren -- Peric -- Simmons -- Szabo -- Tobin -- Ur -- Volpe -- de Savoye

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1862 concerning material depicting violence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-2T.

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1746 to 351-1748, 351-1836, 351-1838 to 351-1840, 351-1842, 351-1852, 351-1855, 351-1867 and 351-1868 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3O.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1854 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-5O.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1837 and 351-1869 to 351-1875 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-9Q.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1798 concerning the parole system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-10R.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1846, 351-1863 and 351-1864 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-30W.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1809 concerning sexual assault. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-34F.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1833 to 351-1835, 351-1841, 351-1843, 351-1853, 351-1856, 351-1857, 351-1865 and 351-1866 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-50M.

Statements by Ministers

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. Ouellet (Minister of Foreign Affairs) made a statement.


Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mrs. Finestone (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism)) made a statement.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), Bill C-76, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 27, 1995, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 27, 1995''.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), one concerning sentences in the Criminal Code (No. 351-2546) and four concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2547 to 351-2550);

-- by Mr. Richardson (Perth -- Wellington -- Waterloo), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 351-2551), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2552), one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 351-2553) and one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2554);

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2555);

-- by Mr. Lastewka (St. Catharines), one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 351-2556) and one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2557);

-- by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2558);

-- by Mr. Steckle (Huron -- Bruce), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2559);

-- by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2560), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-2561 and 351-2562), four concerning abortion (Nos. 351-2563 to 351-2566), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2567 and 351-2568), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2569) and one concerning immigration (No. 351-2570);

-- by Mr. Telegdi (Waterloo), one concerning child poverty (No. 351-2571) and one concerning cable television (No. 351- 2572);

-- by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2573) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2574);

-- by Mrs. Jennings (Mission -- Coquitlam), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2575) and two concerning government spending (Nos. 351-2576 and 351-2577);

-- by Mr. Thalheimer (Timmins -- Chapleau), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2578);

-- by Mr. O'Brien (London -- Middlesex), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 351-2579).

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

By unanimous consent, on motion of Mr. St-Laurent (Manicouagan), seconded by Mr. Lefebvre (Champlain), pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), Bill C-317, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code and the Public Service Staff Relations Act (scabs and essential services), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-73, An Act to provide borrowing authority for the fiscal year beginning on April 1, 1995.

Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That Privy Council Vote 25 and Parliament Vote 10 of the 1995-96 Estimates, which were referred to the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance on 28th February, 1995, be withdrawn from the said Committee and referred to the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages and the Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament, respectively.

-- ORDERED: That the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages be authorized to examine the expenditures set out in Privy Council Vote 25d of Supplementary Estimates (D) for the fiscal year ending the 31st March, 1995.

-- ORDERED: That the Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament be authorized to examine the expenditures set out in Parliament Vote 10d of Supplementary Estimates (D) for the fiscal year ending the 31st March, 1995.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:56 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

-- by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1995 to 1999 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1995 of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-842A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1995 to 1999 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1995 of the Great Lakes Pilotage Authority, Ltd., pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-843A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1995 to 1999 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1995 of the Laurentian Pilotage Authority, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-844A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1995 to 1999 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1995 of the Pacific Pilotage Authority, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-845A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue), three concerning the mining industry (Nos. 351-2580 to 351-2582) and one concerning voice mail (No. 351-2583);

-- by Mr. Cummins (Delta), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2584) and two concerning government spending (Nos. 351-2585 and 351-2586).

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:05 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).