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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU)
44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 90
Monday, January 29, 2024, 3:35 p.m. to 5:41 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Doug Shipley, Vice-Chair (Conservative)

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• Valerie Bradford for Heath MacDonald (Liberal)
• Larry Brock for Doug Shipley (Conservative)
• Alistair MacGregor for Peter Julian (NDP)
• Christine Normandin for Kristina Michaud (Bloc Québécois)
• Sameer Zuberi for Heath MacDonald (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst
• Moly Robichaud, Law Intern
Technical Briefing on Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts
Department of Industry
• Andre Arbour, Director General, Telecommunications and Internet Policy Branch
• Éric Dagenais, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Spectrum and Telecommunications Sector
• Wen Kwan, Senior Director, Information and Communications Technology Resilience
Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
• Kelly-Anne Gibson, Director, Cyber Protection Policy Division
• Colin MacSween, Director General, National Cyber Security Directorate
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 23, 2023, the committee proceeded to a technical briefing on Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts.

The witnesses made statements and answered questions.

At 3:48 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:53 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Committee Business
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of the Acting Chair for this meeting.

Motion

Peter Julian moved, — That Ron McKinnon be elected Acting Chair for this meeting.

Motion

Glen Motz moved, — That Eric Melillo be elected Acting Chair for this meeting.

The question was put on the motion of Peter Julian and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chris Bittle, Iqwinder Gaheer, Peter Julian, Christine Normandin, Jennifer O'Connell, Peter Schiefke — 6;

NAYS: Dane Lloyd, Eric Melillo, Glen Motz, Doug Shipley — 4.

It was agreed, — That Ron McKinnon be elected Acting Chair for this meeting.

At 4:31 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:42 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 4:47 p.m., Ron McKinnon took the Chair.

Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts
Communications Security Establishment
• Daniel Couillard, Director General, Partnerships and Risk Mitigation at the Canadian Centre for Cyber Security
• Sami Khoury, Head, Canadian Centre for Cyber Security
Pursuant to the order of reference of Monday, March 27, 2023, the committee commenced consideration of Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts.

The witnesses made statements.

Committee Business
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Larry Brock moved, —

Given that,

After 8 years of Liberal government, car thefts across Canada have drastically increased, including:

  • 93% in Saint John
  • 106% in Montreal
  • 122% in Ottawa-Gatineau
  • 190% in Moncton
  • 217% in Toronto

Auto theft is devastating for those impacted, and costs are being passed on to consumers in the form of higher insurance premiums, therefore the committee report this to the House its grave concern about the increased auto theft, that the Minister of Public Safety has not offered any new measures to immediately tackle the problem and recognize the government’s failure to act on this matter and the committee immediately:

  1. Call the Minister of Public Safety to appear before committee within two weeks of this motion being adopted
  2. Call the RCMP, CBSA and industry experts to appear before committee within two weeks of this motion being adopted

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Chris Bittle moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chris Bittle, Iqwinder Gaheer, Alistair MacGregor, Jennifer O'Connell, Peter Schiefke, Sameer Zuberi — 6;

NAYS: Larry Brock, Dane Lloyd, Eric Melillo, Glen Motz, Christine Normandin — 5.

Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts
Communications Security Establishment
• Daniel Couillard, Director General, Partnerships and Risk Mitigation at the Canadian Centre for Cyber Security
• Sami Khoury, Head, Canadian Centre for Cyber Security
Pursuant to the order of reference of Monday, March 27, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 5:41 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Simon Larouche
Clerk of the committee