It was agreed, — That recommendations for the draft report on ArriveCAN be submitted to the clerk of the committee by noon, Tuesday, October 10, 2023.

It was agreed, — That recommendations for the draft report on the National Shipbuilding Strategy be submitted to the clerk of the committee by noon, Monday, November 6, 2023.

Your subcommittee met on Thursday, September 21, 2023, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:

1. That the clerk of the committee, in consultation with the Chair, prepare a draft budget respecting the committee's proposed travel to Québec, Québec, Lévis, Québec, and Halifax, Nova Scotia, in relation to its study of the National Shipbuilding Strategy, for consideration by the committee.
2. That the clerk of the committee, in consultation with the Chair, prepare a draft budget respecting the committee's proposed travel to Victoria, British Columbia, and Vancouver, British Columbia, in relation to its study of the National Shipbuilding Strategy, for consideration by the committee.
3. That the committee consider the draft report for the study of the National Shipbuilding Strategy on Tuesday, November 21, and Thursday, November 23, 2023.
4. That the committee consider the draft report for the study of the ArriveCAN Application on Tuesday, October 17, and Thursday October 19, 2023.
5. That, notwithstanding the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, May 3, 2022, the committee issue a separate final report on the National Shipbuilding Strategy.
6. That the committee commence its study of federal procurement and the domestic personal protective equipment industry on Tuesday, October 24, and Thursday, October 26, 2023; that the Deputy Minister of Public Services and Procurement be invited to the second meeting; and that witness lists be submitted to the clerk of the committee by noon on Thursday, October 5, 2023.
7. That the President of the Treasury Board be invited to appear before the committee to discuss her mandate letter.
8. That the Minister of Public Services and Procurement be invited to appear before the committee to discuss his mandate letter.
9. That the study of federal government consulting contracts awarded to McKinsey & Company be deferred until later in the session.
10. That, on Thursday, October 5, 2023, the committee invite the deputy minister of Public Services and Procurement for one hour, and the deputy minister of National Defence for one hour, to brief the committee on the Irving Shipbuilding Inc. subsidy.
11. That, on Tuesday, October 3, 2023, the committee invite the Parliamentary Budget Officer to brief the committee on his recent reports.
12. That the clerk distribute to the committee the two motions adopted by the committee related to the study of the Outsourcing of Contracts; and that the analysts prepare a five-minute oral briefing to update the committee on the status of the study of the Outsourcing of Contracts for Thursday, September 28, 2023.
13. That the meeting on Tuesday, September 26, 2023, be cancelled and that the committee study committee business on Thursday, September 28, 2023.

At 3:39 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:43 p.m., the sitting resumed in public.

Stephanie Kusie moved, — That given the international embarrassment created by the Liberal Government by allowing a former soldier of a Nazi military unit in World War II to attend and be recognized with an ovation during the President of Ukraine’s special address to Parliament on Friday, September 22, and that proper vetting was neither done nor was completed and this individual’s military record was ignored, the committee dedicate six meetings holding hearing into this matter, and the committee hear from the following witnesses:

- Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development (Diplomatic Protocol)

- Royal Canadian Mounted Police

- Canadian Security Intelligence Service

- Parliamentary Protective Service

- House of Commons (Sergeant at Arms)

- House of Commons (International and Interparliamentary Affairs)

- Privy Council Office

- Prime Minister's Office.

Debate arose thereon.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Stephanie Kusie.

Julie Vignola moved, — That debate on the motion be adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jenica Atwin, Parm Bains, Gord Johns, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Charles Sousa — 6;

NAYS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie — 3.

At 4:18 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:25 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Gord Johns moved, — Given the international embarrassment created by the Speaker of the House of Commons by allowing a former soldier of a Nazi military unit in World War II to attend and be recognized during the President of Ukraine’s special address to Parliament on Friday, September 22, and that proper vetting was either not done or this individual’s military record was ignored, that the Chair of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates write to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that they hold hearings to look into this matter to ensure that there are safeguards in place so that this never happens again.

Debate arose thereon.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Garnett Genuis.

It was agreed that the motion be amended.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

Given the international embarrassment created by the Speaker of the House of Commons by allowing a former soldier of a Nazi military unit in World War II to attend and be recognized during the President of Ukraine’s special address to Parliament on Friday, September 22, and that proper vetting was either not done or this individual’s military record was ignored, that the Chair of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates write to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that they create a subcommittee, if necessary, to hold hearings to look into this matter to ensure that there are safeguards in place so that this never happens again.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

Given the international embarrassment created by allowing a former soldier of a Nazi military unit in World War II to attend and be recognized during the President of Ukraine’s special address to Parliament on Friday, September 22, and that proper vetting was either not done or this individual’s military record was ignored, that the Chair of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates write to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that they create a subcommittee, if necessary, to hold hearings to look into this matter to ensure that there are safeguards in place so that this never happens again.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

Given the hurt and international embarrassment created by allowing a former soldier of a Nazi military unit in World War II to attend and be recognized during the President of Ukraine’s special address to Parliament on Friday, September 22, and that proper vetting was either not done or this individual’s military record was ignored, that the Chair of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates write to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that they create a subcommittee, if necessary, to hold hearings to look into this matter to ensure that there are safeguards in place so that this never happens again.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended.

At 4:46 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:51 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Garnett Genuis.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Stephanie Kusie — 3;

NAYS: Jenica Atwin, Parm Bains, Gord Johns, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola — 7.

Debate resumed on the motion, as amended.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

Given the hurt and international embarrassment created by allowing a former soldier of a Nazi military unit in World War II to attend and be recognized during the President of Ukraine’s special address to Parliament on Friday, September 22, and that proper vetting was not done, that the Chair of the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates write to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs to suggest that they create a subcommittee, if necessary, to hold hearings to look into this matter to ensure that there are safeguards in place so that this never happens again.

Kelly Block moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study of the integrity regime to review the effectiveness of the current rules and regulations to ensure that:

1. The government of Canada is not entering into contracts or real property agreements with suppliers which are conducting unethical business practices and;
2. Businesses which engage in unethical business practices, are not able to undermine the fair competition and integrity of the Canadian economy;
3. The use and expenditure of public funds is protected and safeguarded.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

On motion of Julie Vignola, it was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study of the upcoming replacement of the CP-140 Aurora by the Boeing P-8 Poseidon; and that the committee invite to appear at a meeting: Mary Gregory, Assistant Deputy Minister of Industry, Simon Page, Troy Crosby and Bill Matthews.

Gord Johns moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study to identify opportunities within the Government of Canada’s real property portfolio to build non-market housing; that the committee invite witnesses from the Treasury Board, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, as well as the President of the Treasury Board and the Minister for Housing, Infrastructure and Communities; that the study should be at least four meetings; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Debate arose thereon.

At 5:19 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:22 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Debate resumed on the amendment of Irek Kusmierczyk.

The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study to identify opportunities within the Government of Canada’s real property portfolio to build non-market housing; that the committee invite witnesses from the Treasury Board, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, as well as the President of the Treasury Board and the Minister for Housing, Infrastructure and Communities, the CEO of Canada Lands Company, and representatives from Canada Post; that the study should be at least four meetings; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Debate resumed on the motion.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study to identify opportunities within the Government of Canada’s real property portfolio to build non-market housing; that the committee invite witnesses from the Treasury Board, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, as well as the President of the Treasury Board and the Minister for Housing, Infrastructure and Communities, the CEO of Canada Lands Company, and representatives from Canada Post and other witnesses; that the study should be at least four meetings; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Debate resumed on the motion, as amended.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study to identify opportunities within the Government of Canada’s real property portfolio to build market and non-market housing; that the committee invite witnesses from the Treasury Board, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, as well as the President of the Treasury Board and the Minister for Housing, Infrastructure and Communities, the CEO of Canada Lands Company, and representatives from Canada Post and other witnesses; that the study should be at least four meetings; and that the committee report its findings to the House.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Jenica Atwin, Parm Bains, Kelly Block, Garnett Genuis, Gord Johns, Majid Jowhari, Stephanie Kusie, Irek Kusmierczyk, Charles Sousa, Julie Vignola — 10;

NAYS: — 0.

Julie Vignola moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study of the changeover of the Public Service Health Care Plan (PSHCP) from Sun Life to the Canada Life insurance company and that, to do so, the committee examine matters including:

1. the quality of the insurance coverage, taking into account the circumstances and needs of federal public service employees;
2. the efficiency and effectiveness of the new insurance plan, particularly as concerns the online claims service and the telephone service offered to participants and health professionals;
3. the mechanisms that Public Services and Procurement Canada used in awarding the PSHCP contract to ensure the contractor had the capacity to serve the entire federal public service and provide the expected services, and;
4. the measures that will be taken to correct the situation;

That the committee allocate at least four meetings to conduct this study and that it invite to appear, for two hours per panel, the following witnesses:

1. the Minister of Public Services and Procurement at the time the contract was awarded to Canada Life (in March 2023);
2. the current Minister and officials from Canada Life, and;
3. any other witnesses it deems necessary;

That the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House; and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Government table a comprehensive response.

Debate arose thereon.