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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 25
Friday, April 16, 2021, 1:04 p.m. to 6:29 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Karen McCrimmon, Chair (Liberal)

• Leona Alleslev for Terry Dowdall (Conservative)
• Mel Arnold for James Bezan (Conservative)
• Peter Fragiskatos for Yvan Baker (Liberal)
• Andréanne Larouche for Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc Québécois)
Library of Parliament
• Marie Dumont, Analyst
• Anne-Marie Therrien-Tremblay
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

James Bezan moved, — That the committee, concerning its study of addressing sexual misconduct issues in the Canadian Armed Forces, including the allegations against former Chief of Defence Staff Jonathan Vance and Admiral Art McDonald, summon Elder Marques to testify as a witness; that the witness appear individually for no less than two hours; that the meeting be held in public and be televised; and that the witness testify within seven days of this motion passing.

Debate arose thereon.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed motion inadmissible as the committee has previously decided to complete the study.

Whereupon, Cheryl Gallant appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Bagnell, Yvan Baker, Yves Robillard, Sven Spengemann, Anita Vandenbeld — 5;

NAYS: Leona Alleslev, Bob Benzen, James Bezan, Cheryl Gallant, Randall Garrison, Andréanne Larouche — 6.

At 1:15 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 2:27 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Debate resumed on the motion of James Bezan.

Amendment

Andréanne Larouche moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “within seven days of this motion passing” the following: “and that the date of the report is not changed”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Andréanne Larouche and it was agreed to.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Anita Vandenbeld moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word “summon” with the word “invite”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Anita Vandenbeld and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Bagnell, Yvan Baker, Yves Robillard, Sven Spengemann, Anita Vandenbeld — 5;

NAYS: Leona Alleslev, Bob Benzen, James Bezan, Cheryl Gallant, Randall Garrison, Andréanne Larouche — 6.

At 3:26 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:47 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 5:14 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:30 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 5:30 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:35 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 6:29 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Wassim Bouanani
Clerk of the Committee