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The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
The Committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 8 of the Bill, as amended.
“(4) Regulations made under this section, other than regulations made under paragraph (1)(i) or (j), do not apply with respect to programs that are uploaded to an online undertaking that provides a social media service by a user of the service — if that user is not the provider of the service or the provider’s affiliate, or the agent or mandatary of either of them — for transmission over the Internet and reception by other users of the service.”
The question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Jaime Battiste, Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 11;
NAYS: — 0.
Clause 8, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Jaime Battiste, Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 9,
Alain Rayes moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing lines 20 and 21 on page 11 with the following:“to a broadcasting undertaking shall be fees that relate to the recovery”
The question was put on the amendment of Alain Rayes and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Garnett Genuis, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 6;
NAYS: Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis — 5.
Clause 9, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 10,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Friday, October 23, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Paul Manly for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-10, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 1 on page 12 with the following:
“11.1 (1) The Commission shall make regulations re-”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
“Canadian audio or audio-visual programs, including independent productions, for broad-”
The question was put on the amendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
“ative and other human resources contributing to audio or audio-visual programs for broadcast-”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 9.
“(1.1) Regulations made under paragraph (1)(a) must prescribe the minimum share of expenditures that must be allocated to Canadian original French-language programs in the case of broadcasting undertakings that offer programs in both official languages.”
The question was put on the amendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 10;
NAYS: Martin Champoux — 1.
(a) by replacing line 14 on page 12 with the following:
“(2) The Commission may make an order or impose a condition on a licence respecting ex-”
(b) by adding after line 17 on page 12 the following:
“(2.1) The Commission may, in furtherance of its objects, amend, suspend or revoke the order made under subsection (2) or renew it for a term not exceeding seven years.”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 9.
Clause 10, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 11 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 12,
Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 12, be amended(a) by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 13 with the following:
“12 Subsections 18(1) and (2) of the Act are replaced by the following:”
(b) by replacing lines 30 to 32 on page 13 with the following:
“18 (1) Except where otherwise provided, the Commission shall hold a public hearing in connection with
(a) the issue of an order made under subsection 9.1(1) or 11.1(2) or a licence, other than a licence to carry on a temporary network operation;
(b) the suspension or revocation of an order referred to in subsection (a) or a licence;
(c) the establishing of any performance objectives for the purposes of paragraphs 11(2)(b) and 11.1(5)(b); and
(d) the making, renewal or amendment of an order under section 9.1 or subsection 12(2).
(2) The Commission shall hold a public hearing in connection with the amendment or renewal of an order made under subsections 9.1(1) and 11.1(2) or a licence unless the Commission considers that such a hearing is not required in the public interest.”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 9.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Friday, October 23, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Paul Manly for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-10, in Clause 12, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 13 the following:
“(2) Paragraph 18(1)(d) of the Act is replaced by the following:
(d) the making of an order under subsection 9.1(1) or 12(2).”
The question was put on the amendment of Paul Manly and it was negatived.
Clause 12 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On new Clause 12.1,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 32 on page 13 the following new clause:“12.1 Subsection 20(4) of the Act is replaced by the following:
Consultation
(4) The members of a panel established under subsection (1) shall consult with the Commission, and may consult with any officer of the Commission, for the purpose of ensuring a consistency of interpretation of the broadcasting policy set out in subsection 3(1), the regulatory policy set out in subsection 5(2), the orders made under section 9.1, the regulations made under sections 10 and 11 and the regulations and orders made under section 11.1.”
The question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 13 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On new Clause 13.1,
Alain Rayes moved, — That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 7 on page 14 the following new clause:“13.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after subsection 22(1):
(1.1) In addition to subsection (1), no licence shall be issued, amended or renewed under this Part in relation to a broadcasting undertaking, including one that distributes foreign programming, that, in the opinion of the Commission, is subject to direction or control by a foreign state that is not a democratic state or that is committing, or is governed by a party who has committed, genocide or crimes against humanity.”
By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.
“13.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 22:
22.1 (1) No licence shall be issued, amended or renewed under this Part in relation to a broadcasting undertaking, including one that distributes foreign programming, that, in the opinion of the Commission, is subject to direction or control by a foreign state that is not a democratic state or that is committing, or is governed by a party who has committed, genocide or crimes against humanity.
(2) If the Commission is of the opinion that a broadcasting undertaking which has been issued a licence meets the criteria set out in subsection (1), it must, despite section 24, immediately suspend the licence until an investigation of the matter has been completed.
(3) Any licence issued, amended or renewed in contravention of this section is of no force or effect.”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Whereupon, Garnett Genuis appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Marci Ien, Tim Louis — 4;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 7.
The question was put on the amendment of Garnett Genuis and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7.
“13.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 22:
22.1 (1) No licence shall be issued, amended or renewed under this Part in relation to a broadcasting undertaking, including one that distributes foreign programming, that transmits, produces or participates in the production of forced confessions, except where brief audio-visual portions of such confessions are transmitted as part of a news program.
(2) After receiving a complaint in relation to subsection (1), the Commission must, without delay, investigate the complaint and publish a report on the matter on its website within 30 days following receipt of the complaint.
(3) If the Commission, after completing its investigation under subsection (2), is of the opinion that a broadcasting undertaking which has been issued a licence meets the criteria set out in subsection (1), it must, despite section 24, immediately suspend the licence.
(4) Any licence issued, amended or renewed in contravention of this section is of no force or effect.”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Whereupon, Garnett Genuis appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:
YEAS: — 0;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 11.
The question was put on the amendment of Garnett Genuis and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Garnett Genuis, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 4;
NAYS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7.
“13.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after subsection 22(1):
(1.1) No licence shall be issued, amended or renewed under this Part in relation to a broadcasting undertaking, including one that distributes foreign programming, that has nationals who have been sanctioned under the Justice for Victims of Corrupt Foreign Officials Act until such time all sanctions are removed.”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Whereupon, Anthony Housefather appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:
YEAS: — 0;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Garnett Genuis, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Kevin Waugh — 11.
At 1:33 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 1:37 p.m., the sitting resumed.
The question was put on the amendment of Anthony Housefather and it was agreed to.
Clause 14 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 15 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 16 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 17 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
At 1:53 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 2:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On Clause 18,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Friday, October 23, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Paul Manly for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-10, in Clause 18, be amended
(a) by replacing lines 26 and 27 on page 17 with the following:
“28 (1) If the Commission makes a decision to issue, amend or renew a licence, or makes an order, the Governor in”
(b) by replacing line 29 on page 17 with the following:
“sion or order, on petition in writing of any person received within”
(c) by replacing, in the English version, line 31 on page 17 with the following:
“own motion, by order, set aside the decision or order, or refer the”
(d) by replacing line 34 on page 17 with the following:
“in Council is satisfied that the decision or order derogates from”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Whereupon, Martin Champoux appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Tim Louis — 3;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 8.
The question was put on the amendment of Paul Manly and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Heather McPherson — 1;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 10.
(a) by replacing lines 26 to 28 on page 17 with the following:
“28 (1) The Governor in Council may, within 90 days after the date of a deci-”
(b) by replacing, in the French version, lines 27 and 28 on page 17 with the following:
“dience toute décision de celui-ci, s’il est”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 9.
Clause 18 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 19 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 20,
Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 20, be amended(a) by adding after line 19 on page 18 the following:
“(a.1) they do so in accordance with a registration with the Commission; or”
(b) by replacing line 21 on page 18 with the following:
“section 9(4), from the requirement to hold a licence or be registered.”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 9.
“line undertaking without a licence or registration and without being so exempted by the Commission if the activity of the undertaking does not contribute to the implementation of the Canadian broadcasting policy.”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 9.
Clause 20 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 21,
Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 21, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 19 the following:“Consultation and Review
34.01 (1) Every seven years the Commission shall consult with all interested persons with respect to orders made under section 9.1 and regulations and orders made under section 11.1 and shall publish, on the Internet or otherwise, a report on the consultations that also lists the orders and regulations that the Commission proposes to review as a result of the consultations and sets out its plan for conducting the review.
(2) The Commission shall publish the first report within seven years after the day on which this subsection comes into force and, subsequently, within seven years after the day on which the most recent report is published.”
The question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 21, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 22 carried.
On Clause 23,
Martin Champoux moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 23, be amended(a) by adding after line 16 on page 25 the following:
“(1.1) Despite the other provisions of this Act, the Commission shall not impose a penalty on a person carrying on a broadcasting undertaking for a violation without holding a public hearing on the matter unless it considers that such a hearing is not required in the public interest.”
(b) by replacing line 17 on page 25 with the following:
“(2) A public hearing under subsection (1) or (1.1) may be held at”
(c) by replacing line 21 on page 25 with the following:
“hearing to be held by it under subsection (1) or (1.1) to be pub-”
(d) by replacing line 27 on page 25 with the following:
“subsection (1) or (1.1), with regard to the attendance, swearing”
(e) by replacing line 34 on page 25 with the following:
“respect of public hearings under subsections (1) and (1.1).”
(f) by replacing line 36 on page 25 with the following:
“a public hearing on the matter, that the Corporation or the person carrying on the broadcasting undertaking has”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
“(a.1) increasing the administrative monetary penalty amounts set out in subsection 34.5(1);”
The question was put on the amendment of Heather McPherson and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 23, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 24 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 25,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Friday, October 23, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Paul Manly for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-10, in Clause 25, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 29 with the following:
“ternational service that includes the creation, production and distribution of programming targeted at audiences outside of Canada, in English, French and any other language deemed appropriate, in accordance with any directions that”
The question was put on the amendment of Paul Manly and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 9.
Clause 25 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 26 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On new Clause 26.1,
Alain Rayes moved, — That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 25 on page 30 the following new clause:“26.1 Subsection 71(3) is amended by adding the following after paragraph (c):
(c.1) detailed information demonstrating that the Corporation complies with its mandate and the objectives of the broadcasting policy set out in section 3;”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Clause 27 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 28 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 29 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 30 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 31 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 32 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On Clause 33,
Tim Louis moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 33, be amended by replacing lines 23 to 31 on page 33 with the following:“as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Broadcasting Act; or
(c) a distribution undertaking, as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Broadcasting Act, that is carried on lawfully under that Act, in respect of the programs that it originates.
For greater certainty, it does not include an online undertaking, as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Broadcasting Act.”
The question was put on the amendment of Tim Louis and it was agreed to.
Clause 33, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On new Clause 33.1,
Tim Louis moved, — That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 31 on page 33 the following new clause:“33.1 Subsection 30.9(7) of the Act is replaced by the following:
Definition of broadcasting undertaking
(7) In this section, broadcasting undertaking means a broadcasting undertaking, as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Broadcasting Act, that holds a broadcasting licence issued by the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission under that Act. For greater certainty, it does not include an online undertaking, as defined in that subsection 2(1).”
The question was put on the amendment of Tim Louis and it was agreed to.
Clause 34 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 35 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 36 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 37 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 38 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 39 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 40 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 41 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 42 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 43 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 44 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 45 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
Clause 46 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On new Clause 46.1,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the committee on Friday, October 23, 2020, the following amendment, submitted by Paul Manly for the consideration of the committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-10 be amended by adding after line 17 on page 38 the following new clause:
“Review of Regulations
46.1 Within one year after the day on which this Act comes into force and every five years after that, the Commission must review what constitutes a Canadian program under the regulations.”
The question was put on the amendment of Paul Manly and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson — 2;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 9.
“Review
46.1 (1)During the fifth year after this section comes into force, and every five years after that, a comprehensive review of the provisions and operation of this Act must be undertaken by the committee of the Senate, of the House of Commons or of both Houses of Parliament, that is designated or established for that purpose.
(2)The committee must, within one year after the review is undertaken — or within any further period that the Senate, the House of Commons or both Houses of Parliament, as the case may be, authorizes — submit a report on the review to the appropriate House or, in the case of a committee of both Houses, to each House, that includes a statement of any changes that the committee recommends.”
The question was put on the amendment of Martin Champoux and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 6;
NAYS: Lyne Bessette, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis — 5.
Clause 47 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
The Title carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
The Bill, as amended, was adopted on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
ORDERED, — That Bill C-10, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Lyne Bessette, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Tim Louis, Heather McPherson — 7;
NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 4.
On motion of Kevin Waugh, it was agreed, — That the Committee invite officials from the Department of Canadian Heritage to testify about the funding for the discovery of the remains of two hundred and fifteen Indigenous children on the grounds of a former residential school in Kamloops, and what would be required to extend these efforts to all residential schools where unmarked graves may exist; and that Chief Rosanne Casimir of the Tk’emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation be invited to discuss the process of obtaining funding, how sufficient it was relative to the task, and what remains to be done.
At 3:23 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.