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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on National Defence (NDDN)

42nd Parliament, 1st Session

Meeting No. 98

Tuesday, May 29, 2018, 8:47 a.m. to 10:46 a.m.

Room 253-D, Centre Block

Televised

Presiding

Stephen Fuhr, Chair (Liberal)

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Members of the Committee present

Liberal

Stephen Fuhr
Mark Gerretsen
Yves Robillard
Sven Spengemann
Jean R. Rioux, Parliamentary Secretary — Non-Voting Member
Sherry Romanado, Parliamentary Secretary — Non-Voting Member

Conservative

NDP

Randall Garrison

Acting Members present

• Gérard Deltell for Cheryl Gallant (Conservative)

• Iqra Khalid for Darren Fisher (Liberal)

• Dan Vandal for Leona Alleslev (Liberal)

In attendance

Library of Parliament

• Stéphanie Le Saux-Farmer, Analyst

Main Estimates 2018-19: Vote 1 under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1, 5, and 10 under Department of National Defence, Vote 1 under Military Grievances External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Military Police Complaints Commission, Vote 1 under Office of the Communications Security Establishment Commissioner

Appearing

• Hon. Harjit S. Sajjan, P.C., M.P., Minister of National Defence

Witnesses

Department of National Defence

• Jody Thomas, Deputy Minister

• Shelly Bruce, Acting Chief, Communications Security Establishment

• RAdm D.C. Hawco, Acting Vice-Chief of the Defence Staff

• Claude Rochette, Assistant Deputy Minister (Finance) and Chief Financial Officer

• Patrick Finn, Assistant Deputy Minister, Materiel

• Elizabeth Van Allen, Assistant Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Environment

• Geneviève Bernatchez, Judge Advocate General, Canadian Armed Forces

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the Committee commenced consideration of the Main Estimates 2018-19: Vote 1 under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1, 5, and 10 under Department of National Defence, Vote 1 under Military Grievances External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Military Police Complaints Commission, Vote 1 under Office of the Communications Security Establishment Commissioner, referred to the Committee on Monday, April 16, 2018.

The Chair called Vote 1 under Department of National Defence.

The Minister made a statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

At 10:00 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:04 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Committee Business

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

On motion of Sven Spengemann, it was agreed, — That the Committee approve the hospitality expenses for a dinner on Wednesday, May 30, 2018 in honour of Guto Bebb, Minister for Defence Procurement, Parliament of United Kingdom.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

Vote 1 under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1, 5, and 10 under Department of National Defence, Vote 1 under Military Grievances External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Military Police Complaints Commission, Vote 1 under Office of the Communications Security Establishment Commissioner, less the amounts voted in the Interim Estimates carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Mark Gerretsen, Iqra Khalid, Yves Robillard, Sven Spengemann, Dan Vandal

NAYS: James Bezan, Gérard Deltell, Randall Garrison, David Yurdiga

YEAS 5, NAYS 4

ORDERED, — That the Chair report Vote 1 under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1, 5, and 10 under Department of National Defence, Vote 1 under Military Grievances External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Military Police Complaints Commission, Vote 1 under Office of the Communications Security Establishment Commissioner, less the amounts voted in the Interim Estimates to the House on division.

At 10:46 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Elizabeth Kingston

Clerk of the Committee