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Minutes of Proceedings
Liberal
- Joël Lightbound, Parliamentary Secretary — Non-Voting Member
Conservative
Maude Lavoie, Trevor McGowan, Charlene Davidson, Samuel Millar, Tolga Yalkin, Darryl C. Patterson, Colin Stacey, Sara Wiebe, Joyce Henry, André Baril, Michel Tremblay, Karen Hall and Hugues Vaillancourt answered questions.
The Committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.
Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of Clause 1, Short Title, was postponed.
The Chair called Clause 2.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 2 to 22 inclusive carried on division severally.
“$85,000 × A/365”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it infringed on the financial initiative of the Crown, as provided on page 772 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Clause 23 carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 24 to 42 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 43,
Tom Kmiec moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 43, be amended(a) by deleting line 5 on page 35 to line 6 on page 37.
(b) by deleting line 42 on page 38 to line 2 on page 39.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tom Kmiec and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 6.
(a) by replacing line 8 on page 35 to line 27 on page 36 with the following:
“time, means a corporation, partnership or trust that meets the following conditions:
(a) in the case of a corporation,
(i) it is incorporated under the laws of Canada or a province,
(ii) the chairperson or other presiding officer, and at least 3/4 of the directors or other similar officers, are citizens of Canada, and
(iii) it is resident in Canada;
(b) in the case of a partnership,
(i) it is formed under the laws of a province, and
(ii) individuals who are citizens of Canada or persons, or partnerships, described in any of paragraphs (a) to (c) hold interests in the partnership
(A) representing in value at least 75% of the total value of the partnership property, and
(B) that result in at least 75% of each income or loss of the partnership from any source being included in the determination of their incomes;
(c) in the case of a trust,
(i) it is formed under the laws of a province,
(ii) it is resident in Canada, and
(iii) if interests as a beneficiary under the trust are held by one or more persons or partnerships, at least 75% of the fair market value of all interests as a beneficiary under the trust are held by
(A) individuals who are citizens of Canada, or
(B) persons or partnerships described in any of paragraphs (a) to (c);
(d) it operates in Canada, including that its content is edited, designed and, except in the case of digital content, published in Canada;
(e) it is primarily engaged in the production of original news content, which
(i) must be primarily focused on matters of general interest and reports of current events, including coverage of democratic institutions and processes, and
(ii) must not be primarily focused on a particular topic such as industry-specific news, sports, recreation, arts, lifestyle or entertainment;
(f) it regularly employs two or more journalists who deal at arm’s length with the organization in the production of its content;
(g) it is not significantly engaged in the production of content
(i) to promote the interests, or report on the activities, of an organization, an association or its members,
(ii) for a government, Crown corporation or government agency, or
(iii) to promote goods or services; and
(h) it is not a Crown corporation, municipal corporation or government agency.”
(b) by deleting lines 28 to 30 on page 36.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
(b) is designated at that time by the Minister and, for this purpose, the Minister shall take into account any recommendations of a body established for
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Francesco Sorbara and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 2.
Clause 43, as amended, carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 44 to 52 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 53,
Rachel Bendayan moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 53, be amended by replacing line 20 on page 50 with the following:has a battery capacity of at least 7 kWh; and
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 3.
Clause 53, as amended, carried on division.
Clauses 54 to 110 inclusive carried on division severally.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 54 to 110 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 111,
Francesco Sorbara moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 111, be amended by replacing line 30 on page 82 to line 4 on page 83 with the following:73.22 In the following cases, the Centre shall make public, as soon as feasible, the nature of the violation or the default, as the case may be, the name of the person or entity and the amount of the applicable penalty:
(a) a person or entity is deemed to have committed a violation under subsection 73.15(1) or (3);
(b) a person or entity is served with a notice of a decision made under subsection 73.15(2) indicating that they have committed a violation;
(c) a person or entity enters into a compliance agreement with the Centre;
(d) a person or entity is issued a notice of default in respect of a compliance agreement they have entered into with the Centre and they
(i) pay the amount they are liable to pay under subsection 73.18(1),
(ii) are served with a notice of a decision made under subsection 73.19(2) confirming the Centre’s decision that the compliance agreement has not been complied with, or
(iii) are deemed under subsection 73.19(3) to have not complied with the compliance agreement.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Francesco Sorbara and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.
Clause 111, as amended, carried on division.
Clauses 112 to 128 inclusive carried on division severally.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 112 to 128 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 129,
Tom Kmiec moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 129, be amended(a) by deleting lines 13 to 15 on page 89.
(b) by replacing line 22 on page 89 to line 1 on page 90 with the following:
“(3) The Minister of”
(c) by replacing lines 22 and 23 on page 91 with the following:
“Revenue Fund, on the requisition of the Minister of Finance, in respect of a specified province and”
(d) by replacing line 29 on page 91 with the following:
“respect of that specified province and ”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tom Kmiec and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
(a) by replacing line 36 on page 90 with the following:
“(E – F) – H”
(b) by deleting lines 10 to 14 on page 91.
Debate arose thereon.
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it infringed on the financial initiative of the Crown, as provided on page 772 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tom Kmiec and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
Clause 129 carried on division.
Clause 130 carried on division.
On Clause 131,
Tom Kmiec moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 131, be amended by adding after line 30 on page 92 the following:“(2.1) The Minister must cause to be tabled in each House of Parliament, within three months after the end of the fiscal year or, if the House is not then sitting, on any of the first 15 days of the next sitting of the House, a report setting out the funds paid out to the Green Municipal Fund and setting out, broken down by municipality, details of every project for which funding was provided by the Green Municipal Fund.”
Debate arose thereon.
By unanimous consent, the amendment was allowed to stand.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 132 to 140 inclusive carried on division severally.
After debate, Clause 141 carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 142 to 197 inclusive carried on division severally.
Clause 198 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 199 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 200 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 201 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 202 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 203 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 204 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 205 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 206 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 207 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 208 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 209 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 210 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 211 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 212 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 213 to 216 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 217,
Peter Fragiskatos moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 217, be amended by(a) replacing line 3 on page 148 with the following:
Minister may, at any time before the decision statement is made public under subsection 28(5), expand the scope of the re-evaluation or
(b) adding after line 6 on page 148 the following:
(8) If the Minister expands the scope of a re-evaluation or special review under subsection (7) after the consultation statement relating to the re-evaluation or special review has been made public under subsection 28(2), the Minister shall make public a new or amended consultation statement under that subsection that takes into account the aspect referred to in subsection (7).
The question was put on the amendment of Peter Fragiskatos and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 9; NAYS: 0.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-97, in Clause 217, be amended by adding after line 6 on page 148 the following:
“(8) The decision to expand the scope of a re-evaluation or special review shall be made before making public the consultation statement referred to in subsection 28(2).”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was not consistent with earlier decisions made by the committee, as provided on page 771 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Clause 217, as amended, carried on division.
On Clause 218,
Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-97, in Clause 218, be amended by adding after line 29 on page 148 the following:
“(3) After making a decision not to initiate a special review under subsection (2), the Minister shall make public a decision statement that shall include the decision and the reasons for it.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 8.
17.2 The Minister shall make public each of the following decisions and the reasons for it:
(a) a decision made under subsection 17(7) to expand the scope of a re-evaluation or special review to include an aspect that would otherwise prompt a new special review under subsection 17(2);
(b) a decision made under subsection 17.1(1) or (2) not to initiate a special review in relation to an aspect that would otherwise prompt such a review under subsection 17(2).
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Fragiskatos and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 1.
Clause 218, as amended, carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 219 to 221 inclusive carried on division severally.
At 12:30 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:48 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On Clause 222,
Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 222, be amended by replacing line 18 on page 149 with the following:“mation and modernization plans that take account of the challenges of harassment and culture change;”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 5.
“(2.1) All advice, information and reports provided to the Commissioner shall include a gender-based analysis.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 8.
(2.1) In carrying out its mandate, the Management Advisory Board shall consider the impact of its advice on women, men and gender-diverse people by taking into account the intersection of sex and gender with other identity factors.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.
“Minister with a copy or a summary of any advice or information that it provides to the Commissioner, but it shall provide the Minister with a copy of every report that it provides to the Commissioner.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 5.
“(1.1) When recommending members, the Minister is to take into consideration the importance of representation on the Management Advisory Board of persons who reflect the diversity of Canadian society, including women, Indigenous persons, persons with disabilities, members of visible minorities and persons who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or two-spirit.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.
(2.1) When recommending members, the Minister shall consider the importance of having a Management Advisory Board that is representative of the diversity of Canadian society and that is comprised of members who have the experience and the capacity required to carry out the Board’s mandate.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 0.
Clause 222, as amended, carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 223 to 225 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 226,
Blake Richards moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 226, be amended(a) by replacing lines 2 and 3 on page 156 with the following:
“2 The purpose of this Act is to ensure that the provision of pilotage services under regulated monopoly is done in accordance with the”
(b) by replacing lines 12 and 13 on page 156 with the following:
“(b.1) that pilotage services be provided in a manner that is responsive to the needs of users and that promotes continuous improvement in service delivery;
(b.2) that transparency and accountability be achieved in all aspects of pilotage services;
(c) that risk management tools be used effectively and that there be optimal use of new technologies consistent with the safety of navigation;”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blake Richards and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
Clause 226 carried on division.
Clauses 227 to 237 inclusive carried on division severally.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 227 to 237 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 238,
Blake Richards moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 238, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 4 on page 160.After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blake Richards and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
Clause 238 carried on division.
Clause 239 carried on division.
On Clause 240,
Blake Richards moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 240, be amended by deleting lines 20 to 25 on page 163.After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blake Richards and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 5.
Clause 240 carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 241 to 254 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 255,
Blake Richards moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 255, be amended by deleting lines 13 to 16 on page 200.After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blake Richards and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
Clause 255 carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 256 to 269 inclusive carried on division severally.
Clause 270 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 271 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 272 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 273 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 274 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 275 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 276 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 277 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 278 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
Clause 279 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Jim Eglinski, Peter Fragiskatos, Pam Goldsmith-Jones, Kelly McCauley, Michael V. McLeod, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 280 to 291 inclusive carried on division severally.
The Committee reverted to Clause 131 previously stood.
“(2.1) The Minister must cause to be tabled in each House of Parliament, within three months after the end of the fiscal year or, if the House is not then sitting, on any of the first 15 days of the next sitting of the House, a report setting out the funds paid out to the Green Municipal Fund and setting out, broken down by municipality, details of every project for which funding was provided by the Green Municipal Fund.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tom Kmiec and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 5.
Clause 131 carried on division.
At 1:30 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:33 p.m., the sitting resumed.
On Clause 292,
Blake Richards moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 292, be amended(a) by replacing line 5 on page 237 with the following:
“ship Consultants estab-”
(b) by replacing line 30 on page 260 to line 33 on page 265 with the following:
“86 The Minister may establish, by order, a corpora-”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Blake Richards and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.
Clause 292 carried on division.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 293 to 299 inclusive carried on division severally.
On Clause 300,
Tom Kmiec moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 300, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 24 on page 273 with the following:“day on which an order made”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Tom Kmiec and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 5.
Clause 300 carried on division.
On Clause 301,
Tom Kmiec moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 301, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 6 on page 274 with the following:“301 Section 159.4 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations is repealed.”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it sought to amend a statute not mentioned in the Bill, as provided on page 771 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Clause 301 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
On Clause 302,
Tom Kmiec moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 302, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 274 to line 6 on page 275 with the following:“302 The portion of section 159.5 of the Regulations before paragraph (a) is replaced by the following:
159.5 Paragraph 101(1)(e) of the Act does not apply to a claimant who seeks to enter Canada in accordance with subsection 100(4) of the Act if ”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it sought to amend a statute not mentioned in the Bill, as provided on page 771 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
At 3:47 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 3:52 p.m., the sitting resumed.
Clause 302 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 303 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 304 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 305 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 306 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 307 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 308 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
On new Clause 308.1,
Rachel Bendayan moved, — That Bill C-97 be amended by adding after line 30 on page 279 the following:308.1 The Act is amended by adding the following after section 113:
113.01 Unless the application is allowed without a hearing, a hearing must, despite paragraph 113(b), be held in the case of an applicant for protection whose claim for refugee protection has been determined to be ineligible solely under paragraph 101(1)(c.1).
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 309 carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
On Clause 310,
Rachel Bendayan moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 310, be amended by adding after line 2 on page 281 the following:(e) section 113.01 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act is replaced by the following:
113.01 Unless the application is allowed without a hearing, a hearing must, despite paragraphs 113(b.1) and (b.3), be held in the case of an applicant for protection whose claim for refugee protection has been determined to be ineligible solely under paragraph 101(1)(c.1).
The question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
Clause 310, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5;
NAYS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4.
By unanimous consent, Clauses 311 and 312 carried on division severally.
On Clause 313,
Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 313, be amended(a) by replacing lines 10 and 11 on page 283 with the following:
“(a) recognize that housing is a fundamental human right that is essential to the inherent dignity and well-being of the person and to the development of sustainable and inclusive communities;”
(b) by adding after line 17 on page 283 the following:
“(d) identify the particular needs and rights of Indigenous Peoples and the barriers that prevent them from meeting those needs and exercising those rights and, consistent with the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, co-develop strategies with Indigenous organizations to address those barriers and to enable Indigenous peoples to meet their needs and exercise their rights.”
(c) by replacing lines 3 to 5 on page 284 with the following:
“(a) implement the housing policy, taking a human rights-based approach;”
(d) by replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 284 with the following:
“tives, timelines and desired outcomes consistent with the housing policy;”
(e) by adding after line 17 on page 284 the following:
“(e) provide public education resources and support for community initiatives designed to advance the right to housing; and
(f) support the implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples with regard to housing.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
(a) replacing lines 10 to 15 on page 283 with the following:
(a) recognize that the right to adequate housing is a fundamental human right affirmed in international law;
(b) recognize that housing is essential to the inherent dignity and well-being of the person and to building sustainable and inclusive communities;
(c) support improved housing outcomes for the people of Canada; and
(d) further the progressive realization of the right to
(b) replacing lines 18 and 19 on page 283 with the following:
5 (1) The Minister must develop and maintain a national housing strategy to further the housing policy, taking into account key principles of a human rights-based approach to housing.
(c) replacing lines 8 to 10 on page 284 with the following:
tives, timelines and desired outcomes;
(d) replacing lines 19 to 22 on page 284 with the following:
Council, is established for the purpose of furthering the housing policy and the National Housing Strategy by
(a) providing advice to the Minister, on its own initiative or at the request of the Minister, including, among other things, on the effectiveness of the National Housing Strategy; and
(e) adding after line 21 on page 285 the following:
(d) persons who have expertise in human rights.
(f) replacing lines 19 to 29 on page 288 with the following:
the Minister for that year that
(a) provides a summary of his or her activities, any submissions received, the results of the consultations and of any analysis, research and study; and
(b) contains recommended measures — respecting matters over which Parliament has jurisdiction and that take into account the housing policy — to address systemic housing issues.
(g) replacing lines 4 and 5 on page 289 with the following:
each House of Parliament on any of the first 120 days after the Minister has caused the annual report to be tabled in both
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Fragiskatos and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 3.
(a) by replacing line 3 on page 287 with the following:
“(a) to advance the housing policy;
(a.1) with respect to systemic housing issues faced by”
(b) by replacing lines 7 and 8 on page 287 with the following:
“(i) to receive petitions from those persons and civil society organizations identifying systemic housing issues and measures necessary to address those issues and ensure compliance with the housing policy,”
(c) by adding after line 13 on page 287 the following:
“(a.2) to develop and conduct public information and education programs designed to advance the housing policy;
(a.3) to examine and review any federal statute or regulation or Government of Canada program or policy and make recommendations on enhancing its consistency with the housing policy;
(a.4) to initiate reviews and inquiries into incidents or conditions related to housing in a particular community, institution, industry or sector of the economy and to make recommendations and encourage and coordinate plans, programs and activities that advance the housing policy by addressing the incidents or conditions in question;
(a.5) to monitor progress in meeting the goals, timelines and desired outcomes that are set out in the National Housing Strategy;
(a.6) to report on the findings arising from the exercise of his or her mandate and make recommendations respecting those findings to the Minister or any other relevant party; and ”
(d) by adding after line 16 on page 288 the following:
“15.1 (1) The Federal Housing Advocate must review each petition received under subparagraph 13(a.1)(i) to determine whether an investigation is warranted and communicate his or her determination to the person or group that submitted the petition.
(2) The Federal Housing Advocate may send a request for information relating to the petition to any person and that person must respond to the request within the period specified in the request.
(3) If the Federal Housing Advocate determines that an investigation is warranted, he or she must conduct an investigation.
(4) After conducting an investigation, the Federal Housing Advocate must issue an opinion as to whether the concerns raised in the petition are substantiated and may direct the opinion to the Minister or to the person or group that submitted the petition and to any other relevant person.
(5) The Federal Housing Advocate may recommend any remedial action that may be necessary for the advancement of the right to housing or the implementation of the National Housing Strategy.
15.2 If the Federal Housing Advocate identifies a systemic housing issue and considers it warranted, he or she may
(a) appoint a review panel, consisting of three members of the National Housing Council with expertise or experience in human rights and housing matters, with at least one of those members being a representative of communities directly affected by homelessness or inadequate housing, to consider the issue and hold hearings to determine whether remedial action is required;
(b) provide the panel with a summary of the information that the Federal Housing Advocate has relating to the issue and its possible implications for the advancement of the right to housing; and
(c) work with affected communities and relevant experts to present relevant evidence and proposals for remedial action to the panel.
15.3 (1) A review panel appointed under paragraph 15.2(a) must
(a) consider the systemic housing issues identified in its terms of reference and whether remedial action is required;
(b) hold hearings in a manner that offers the members of affected communities, groups with expertise and experience in human rights and housing and other members of the public an opportunity to participate;
(c) prepare a report that sets out the panel’s findings of fact, states the panel’s conclusions about the systemic housing issue and includes recommendations for remedial action, if appropriate; and
(d) submit its report to the Minister and make it public.
(2) A review panel must emphasize flexibility and informality in the conduct of hearings and, if consistent with principles of natural justice, receive evidence that would not normally be admissible under the rules of evidence in a court.
(3) No action or other proceeding lies or is to be commenced against a member of a review panel for or in respect of anything done or omitted to be done during the course of and for the purposes of the review by the review panel.
15.4 The Minister must provide a written response within 60 days after receiving a review panel’s report that outlines any measures that will be taken to address the systemic housing matters identified in the report and to implement the recommendations set out in it. ”
Debate arose thereon.
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
“17.1 The Minister must respond to any recommendation made by the Federal Housing Advocate within 60 days after the day on which the Minister receives the recommendation.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 8.
“(1.1) The report must also include, for every year,
(a) the number of housing units created under the National Housing Strategy, broken down by location, market value and size, including the number of bedrooms;
(b) the number of housing units upgraded, renovated or modernized under the National Housing Strategy;
(c) the number of Canadians living in inadequate or unaffordable housing that have benefited from the National Housing Strategy; and
(d) detailed information respecting the use of the funds allocated for the National Housing Strategy.”
The question was put on the amendment of Tom Kmiec and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
Clause 313, as amended, carried on division.
Clause 314 carried on division.
On Clause 315,
Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 315, be amended(a) by replacing line 20 on page 289 with the following:
“315 The Poverty Elimination Act, whose text is as”
(b) by replacing line 23 on page 289 with the following:
“An Act respecting the elimination of poverty”
(c) by replacing line 7 on page 290 with the following:
“1 This Act may be cited as the Poverty Elimination Act.”
(d) by replacing line 17 on page 290 with the following:
“in, and continuous monitoring of, poverty elimination in”
(e) by replacing line 2 on page 291 with the following:
“elimination strategy.”
(f) by replacing lines 10 to 12 on page 293 with the following:
“(a) provide advice to the Minister on poverty elimination in Canada, including with respect to programs, funding and activities that support poverty elimination;”
(g) by replacing line 21 on page 293 with the following:
“made in poverty elimination measured by, among”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault — 1;
NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Tom Kmiec, Lloyd Longfield, Michael V. McLeod, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards, Francesco Sorbara — 8.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-97, in Clause 315, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 289 the following:
“Whereas poverty reduction contributes to meeting Canada’s international human rights obligations, including under the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women;”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.
(a) by replacing line 13 on page 290 with the following:
“Official Reference Poverty Line means the Market Basket Mea-”
(b) by replacing line 18 on page 290 with the following:
“Canada towards achieving a poverty-free society.”
(c) by replacing lines 7 to 9 on page 291 with the following:
“7 (1) The Official Reference Poverty Line is Canada's official metric to measure the level of poverty in Canada, to assess progress in meeting the targets set out in section 6 and to measure poverty based on the coverage of basic needs.”
(d) by replacing line 16 on page 291 with the following:
“in addition to the Official Reference Poverty Line, to measure the”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 7.
(a) by replacing lines 13 to 15 on page 290 with the following:
“Official Poverty Line means a metric corresponding to a household income that is 60% of the median income for the population as a whole, adjusted for the size and composition of the household. (seuil officiel de la pauvreté)”
(b) by deleting lines 10 to 14 on page 291.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 7.
“poverty means the condition of a human being who lacks the resources, means, options and power necessary to acquire and maintain economic self-sufficiency or to facilitate his or her integration into and participation in society. (pauvreté)”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
“in, and continuous monitoring of, poverty elimination in”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-97, in Clause 315, be amended by adding after line 2 on page 291 the following:
“(2) The strategy must include plans and annual targets to reduce poverty.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
“(2) The strategy must provide for the collecting of information that is necessary to measure its effectiveness based on the ethnic origin of the persons living in poverty.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
“5.1 The Minster must undertake to ensure that the implementation of the strategy respects Canada's international human rights obligations, including those under the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
“the Government of Canada aspires are, at a minimum,”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
“(2) The Official Poverty Line is to be reviewed every year to ensure”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-97, in Clause 315, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 291 with the following:
“ing in Canada and taking into account the specific developmental needs of children.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.
“(3) The Chief Statistician of Canada must publish the list of items that comprise the basket of goods and services representing a modest, basic standard of living in Canada and the price of those items on Statistics Canada website.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 2; NAYS: 3.
“tional Advisory Council on Poverty, consisting of not more than 17”
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it infringed on the financial initiative of the Crown, as provided on page 772 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.
Pursuant to the order adopted by the Committee on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, the following amendment, submitted by Elizabeth May for the consideration of the Committee, was deemed moved:
That Bill C-97, in Clause 315, be amended by adding after line 12 on page 292 the following:
“(3.1) Before making a recommendation to the Governor in Council with respect to the appointment of members of the Council, the Minister must take into consideration the importance of representation on the Council of persons with experience in dealing with child poverty.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Elizabeth May and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 0; NAYS: 4.
“(3.1) Before making the recommendation to the Governor in Council, the Minister is to take into consideration the importance of representation on the Council of
(a) persons who are members of vulnerable groups;
(b) persons who belong to anti-poverty organizations; and
(c) persons who reflect the diversity of Canadian society.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 8.
“(2) The Minister must post the report on the departmental website within 30 days after the day on which the report is tabled in Parliament.”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.
Clause 315, as amended, carried on division.
Clause 316 carried on division.
On Clause 317,
Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 317, be amended by replacing line 4 on page 294 with the following:“317 Sections 9 to 12 of the Poverty Elimination”
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 5.
Clause 317 carried on division.
At 6:16 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.