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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 3rd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 47

Tuesday, May 4, 2004

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Gallaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 373-0536 and 373-0623 concerning the Canada Post Corporation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-373-40-06;

— No. 373-0551 concerning the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-373-66-01.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

— by Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 373-0808).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Gallaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-74 and Q-77 on the Order Paper.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Gallaway (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the return to the following question made into an Order for Return:

Q-75 — Mr. Clark (Calgary Centre) — What public opinion polling has been commissioned by the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation since December 31, 2000, and, in each case, specify: (a) the purpose of the poll; (b) the date of the poll; (c) the public opinion polling company involved; and (d) any other crown corporations involved? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-373-75.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-30, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 23, 2004.

Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour and Minister responsible for Homelessness) for Mr. Goodale (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Mills (Toronto—Danforth) , seconded by Mr. McKay (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance) , moved, — That this question be now put.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) laid upon the Table, — Correspondence between the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans and the Joint Chairs of the Standing Joint Committee for the Scrutiny of Regulations. — Sessional Paper No. 8530-373-20.

Deferred Recorded Divisions

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Robillard (Minister of Industry and Minister responsible for the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec) , seconded by Ms. Carroll (Minister for International Cooperation) , — That Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Patent Act and the Food and Drugs Act (The Jean Chrétien Pledge to Africa), be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+

(Division No. 66 -- Vote no 66)

YEAS: 229, NAYS: 0

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Assadourian
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Barrette
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Benoit
Bergeron
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brison
Brown
Bulte
Caccia
Calder
Carroll
Casey
Casson
Castonguay
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chatters
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Comuzzi
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Davies
Day
Desjarlais
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Dromisky
Drouin
Duceppe
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Epp
Farrah
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Frulla
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gallaway
Gaudet
Gauthier
Godfrey
Godin
Gouk
Graham
Grewal
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Harris
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hinton
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jaffer
Jennings
Jobin
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Longfield
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Marceau
Marcil
Mark
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Masse
Matthews
Mayfield
McCallum
McCormick
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Ménard
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Minna
Mitchell
Moore
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Paradis
Patry
Penson
Peric
Perron
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Reynolds
Ritz
Robillard
Rocheleau
Roy
Saada
Sauvageau
Savoy
Schellenberger
Scherrer
Schmidt
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stinson
Stoffer
Strahl
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Tremblay
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
Whelan
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Wilfert
Williams
Yelich -- 229
NAYS -- CONTRE
Nil--Aucun
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Caplan
Cardin
Cauchon
Dalphond-Guiral
Efford
Fontana
Fournier
Goodale
Lanctôt
O'Brien (Labrador)
Picard (Drummond)
St-Hilaire
Tremblay

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cotler (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Ms. Bennett (Minister of State (Public Health)) , — That Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , seconded by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness for the purpose of reconsidering all of its clauses, with the view to eliminate loopholes identified by the nation's most notorious child pornographer, Robin Sharpe.”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

+-

(Division No. 67 -- Vote no 67)

YEAS: 54, NAYS: 175

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Ablonczy
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Benoit
Breitkreuz
Casey
Casson
Chatters
Day
Doyle
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Gouk
Grewal
Harris
Hearn
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Mark
Mayfield
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Neville
Obhrai
Penson
Rajotte
Reynolds
Ritz
Schellenberger
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Steckle
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Ur
Wayne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Williams
Yelich -- 54
NAYS -- CONTRE
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Assadourian
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Barrette
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bergeron
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bulte
Caccia
Calder
Carroll
Castonguay
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Comuzzi
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Farrah
Frulla
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gallaway
Gaudet
Gauthier
Godfrey
Godin
Graham
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Harvard
Harvey
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jobin
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Longfield
Loubier
MacAulay
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Marceau
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Ménard
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Normand
Nystrom
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Paradis
Patry
Peric
Perron
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Rocheleau
Roy
Saada
Sauvageau
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Stewart
Stoffer
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Tremblay
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Whelan
Wilfert -- 175
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Caplan
Cardin
Cauchon
Dalphond-Guiral
Efford
Fontana
Fournier
Goodale
Lanctôt
O'Brien (Labrador)
Picard (Drummond)
St-Hilaire
Tremblay


Pursuant to Order made Thursday, April 29, 2004, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Mitchell (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Ms. Frulla (Minister of Social Development) , — That Bill C-23, An Act to provide for real property taxation powers of first nations, to create a First Nations Tax Commission, First Nations Financial Management Board, First Nations Finance Authority and First Nations Statistical Institute and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be concurred in at report stage with amendments.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 68 -- Vote no 68)

YEAS: 136, NAYS: 91

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Barrette
Beaumier
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bulte
Caccia
Calder
Carroll
Castonguay
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Farrah
Frulla
Gallaway
Godfrey
Graham
Guarnieri
Harvard
Harvey
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jobin
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Longfield
MacAulay
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
Steckle
Stewart
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Whelan
Wilfert -- 136
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Ablonczy
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Benoit
Bergeron
Bigras
Blaikie
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Casey
Casson
Chatters
Clark
Comartin
Crête
Davies
Day
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gallant
Gaudet
Gauthier
Godin
Gouk
Grewal
Guay
Guimond
Harris
Hearn
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hill (Macleod)
Hinton
Jaffer
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lill
Lincoln
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Marceau
Mark
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
Mayfield
McDonough
Ménard
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Nystrom
Obhrai
Paquette
Penson
Perron
Plamondon
Proctor
Rajotte
Reynolds
Ritz
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schellenberger
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Stinson
Stoffer
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tremblay
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Williams
Yelich -- 91
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Caplan
Cardin
Cauchon
Dalphond-Guiral
Efford
Fontana
Fournier
Goodale
Lanctôt
O'Brien (Labrador)
Picard (Drummond)
St-Hilaire
Tremblay

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage with amendments and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , — That Bill C-30, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 23, 2004, be now read a third time and do pass;

And of the motion of Mr. Mills (Toronto—Danforth) , seconded by Mr. McKay (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance) , — That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

Private Members' Business

At 5:57 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Crête (Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup—Témiscouata—Les Basques) , seconded by Mr. Laframboise (Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel) , — That Bill C-303, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (travel expenses for a motor vehicle used by a forestry worker), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, May 5, 2004, immediately before the time provided for Private Members' Business.

Messages from the Senate

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

    — ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-7, An Act to amend certain Acts of Canada, and to enact measures for implementing the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, in order to enhance public safety, without amendment.

— ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-17, An Act to amend certain Acts, without amendment.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by the Speaker — Report of the Auditor General of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2004, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-373-627-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness)

— by Mr. Volpe (Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development) — Report of the Review of Canada's student financial assistance programs for the loan year 2001-2002, pursuant to the Canada Student Financial Assistance Act, S.C. 2003, c.15, s. 12. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-373-773-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills Development, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:47 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:06 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).