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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS


THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1997
(Meeting No. 35)

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The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:09 a.m., this day, in Room 112-N (Centre Block), the Chair, Paul Zed, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral, Jack Frazer, Mac Harb, Bob Kilger, François Langlois, John Loney, Rey Pagtakhan and Paul Zed.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, Research Officer. From the House of Commons: Diane Diotte, Clerk, Sub-Committee on Private Members Business.

Private Members' Business: S.0.s 92 and 108(3)(a)(iv)

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of its business pursuant to Standing Orders 92 and 108(3)(a)(iv) in relation to Private Members' Business.

The Chair presented a report from the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business recommending the selection of certain items as votable items pursuant to S.O. 92(1).

On motion of Mac Harb, it was agreed,--That, the Report from the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business be adopted as the Committee's Fifty-first Report to the House and that the Chairman present the report to the House.

Committee's budget--S.O. 120

The Chair presented a budget for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1997.

After debate, on motion of Mac Harb, it was agreed,--That, the Committee adopt the proposed budget request in the amount of $5,000 to cover operating costs for the Committee and its Sub-Committees on Private Members Business and the Business of Supply for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1997 and that the said budget be presented to the Budget Sub-Committee of the Liaison Committee.

At 11:17 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee

Striking Committee

Monday, February 3, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Forty-ninth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Tuesday, February 4, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fiftieth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee


THURSDAY, MARCH 6, 1997
(Meeting No. 36)

The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:13 a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chair, Paul Zed, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral, Bob Kilger, François Langlois, Rey Pagtakhan, Carolyn Parrish, Ray Speaker and Paul Zed.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, Research Officer.

Committee's mandate under S.0.108(3)(a)(i)

On motion of François Langlois, it was agreed,--That, in accordance with Standing Order 108(1)(a), a Sub-Committee on Members' Services be created;

-that, the mandate of the Sub-Committee shall be to consider any matter referred to in Standing Order 108(3)(a)(i);

-that, the Sub-Committee shall be composed of two Members from the government side, namely Marlene Catterall and one other Member to be appointed by the Chief Government Whip; one M.P. from the Official Opposition, namely, François Langlois; and one Member from the third party in the House, namely, Ray Speaker;

-that, the Sub-Committee shall report by consensus, from time to time to the Committee.

House of Commons Publications

By unanimous consent, on motion of Ray Speaker, it was agreed,--That, the motion adopted by the Committee on October 8, 1996 which reads as follows, be rescinded:

"That, the Committee recommend to the Board of Internal Economy the elimination of the reprinting of Written Questions in the Order Paper and the Supplement to the Order Paper after their appearance in the Notice Paper and that unanswered questions be updated on a daily basis and made available on PUBNET, and that the Order Paper be published in full on a monthly basis."

On motion of Ray Speaker, it was agreed,- That, the Committee recommend to the Board of Internal Economy the elimination of the reprinting of Written Questions in the Order Paper and the Supplement to the Order Paper after their appearance in the Notice Paper and that unanswered questions be updated on a daily basis and made available on PUBNET.

At 11:24 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee

Striking Committee

Monday, February 10, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Second Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Wednesday, February 12, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Third Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Thursday, February 13, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Fourth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Friday, February 14, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Fifth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Wednesday, February 19, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Sixth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Monday, March 3, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Seventh Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee


TUESDAY, MARCH 18, 1997
(Meeting No. 37)

The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:04 a.m. this day, in Room 112-N (Centre Block), the Chair, Paul Zed, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral; Jack Frazer, Bonnie Hickey, Bob Kilger, François Langlois, Rey Pagtakhan, Carolyn Parrish, Ray Speaker, Chuck Strahl and Paul Zed.

Acting Member present: Sue Barnes for Mac Harb.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, Research Officer. From the House of Commons: Diane Diotte, Clerk of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business.

Witness: From the House of Commons: Robert Marleau, Clerk of the House.

Private Members' Business: S.0.s 92 and 108(3)(a)(iv)--votable items

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of its business pursuant to Standing Orders 92 and 108(3)(a)(iv) in relation to Private Members' Business.

The Chair of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business (Carolyn Parrish) presented a report from the Sub-Committee recommending the selection of certain items as votable items pursuant to Standing Order 92(1).

After debate, it was agreed,--That, the Report from the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business be adopted as the Committee's Fifty-Ninth Report to the House and that the Chairman be instructed to present the report to the House.

Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business: Report on the Committee's Orders of Reference of September 26, 1996, October 8, 1996 and December 5, 1996

The Chair of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business (Carolyn Parrish) presented the Sub-Committee's report on its Orders of reference from the Committee of September 26, 1996, October 8, 1996 and December 5, 1996 in relation to the question of votable items and the process at committee's stage.

François Langlois and Jack Frazer, Members of the Sub-Committee on Private Members' Business, made statements.

It was agreed,--That, the report be brought to the attention of the caucus of the recognized parties for consideration and that, the Committee will review the draft report at a later date.

Committee's mandate under S.O. 108(3)(a)(iii)--House practice and procedure

Inaccordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3)(a)(iii), the Committee proceeded to the consideration of the procedure and practice in the House surrounding questions during Question Period.

The witness answered questions.

After debate, it was agreed,--That, a draft report be prepared on this question for consideration by Members at the meeting scheduled for Thursday, March 20, 1997 at 11:00 a.m.

Sub-Committee on Members' Services

In accordance with the motion adopted by the Committee on Thursday, March 6, 1997, Bob Kilger appointed Joe Fontana to the Sub-Committee on Members' Services.

At 11:44 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee

Striking Committee

Monday, March 10, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Fifty-Eighth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee


THURSDAY, MARCH 20, 1997
(Meeting No. 38)

The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:32 a.m., this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Vice-Chair, Marlene Catterall, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral, Jack Frazer, Mac Harb, Bonnie Hickey, Bob Kilger, François Langlois, René Laurin, Rey Pagtakhan, Carolyn Parrish and Ray Speaker.

Acting Member present: Marlene Cowling for Marlene Catterall.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From the Office of the Chief Electoral Officer: Jean-Pierre Kingsley, Chief Electoral Officer; Jacques Girard, Director, Legal Services; Janice Vézina, Director, Elections Financing.

Committee's mandate under S.O. 108(3)(a)(iii)--Question period

In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 108(3)(a)(iii), the Committee resumed consideration of the procedure and practice in the House surrounding questions during Question Period (See Minutes of Proceedings for Tuesday, March 18, 1997, meeting No. 37).

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of a Draft Report to the House.

On motion of Jack Frazer, seconded by François Langlois, it was agreed,--That, the Draft Report be adopted as the Committee's Sixty-First Report to the House and that the Chair present the report to the House.

Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply

On motion of Mac Harb, it was agreed,--That, the Committee authorize the tabling of the report from the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply with the Clerk of the Committee, on or before March 21, 1997.

Main Estimates--Vote 20 under PRIVY COUNCIL

The Order of Reference from the House of Commons dated Thursday, February 20, 1997, in relation to the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998, being read as follows:

That, Vote 20 under PRIVY COUNCIL be referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The Chair called Vote 20 under PRIVY COUNCIL.

Jean-Pierre Kingsley made an opening statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

At 12:18 p.m., the Vice-Chair, François Langlois, took the Chair.

By unanimous consent, Vote 20 under PRIVY COUNCIL carried.

ORDERED,--That, the Chair report Vote 20 under PRIVY COUNCIL to the House.

At 12:25 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee

Striking Committee

Wednesday, March 19, 1997

In accordance with the mandate of the Committee concerning its responsibilities as the Striking Committee and according to an Order adopted on Thursday, February 29, 1996, the Sixtieth Report is deemed to have been adopted and the Chairman is ordered to present it to the House.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee


TUESDAY, APRIL 8, 1997
(Meeting No. 39)

The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:10 o'clock a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Vice-Chair, François Langlois, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Bonnie Hickey, Bob Kilger, François Langlois, René Laurin, John Loney, Carolyn Parrish, Roger Pomerleau, Ray Speaker and Chuck Strahl.

Acting Members present: John Richardson for Paul Zed; Larry McCormick for Rey Pagtakhan; Mauril Bélanger for Rey Pagtakhan (12:05 p.m.); John Williams for Jack Frazer.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James R. Robertson, Research Officer.

Appearing: The Honourable Gilbert Parent, Speaker, House of Commons.

Witnesses: From the House of Commons: Robert Marleau, Clerk of the House; Mary Anne Griffith, Deputy Clerk (Administrative Services); Major General G. Cloutier, Sergeant-at-Arms.

Main Estimates - Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT (House of Commons)

The Order of Reference from the House dated Thursday, February 20, 1997, in relation to the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998, being read as follows:

That, Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT be referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The Vice-Chair called Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT.

The Speaker Gilbert Parent and Robert Marleau each made an opening statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

John Williams moved,--That Vote 5, less the amount voted in Interim Supply be reduced by $209,466 from $213,600,000 (less $160,200,000 voted as interim supply) to $53,190,534.

At 12:35 o'clock p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Luc Fortin

Committee Clerk


TUESDAY, APRIL 15, 1997
(Meeting No. 40)

The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:05 a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chair, Paul Zed, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Jack Frazer, Mac Harb, Bonnie Hickey, Bob Kilger, François Langlois, Rey Pagtakhan, Carolyn Parrish, Roger Pomerleau, Ray Speaker, Chuck Strahl and Paul Zed.

Acting Member present: John Williams for Ray Speaker.

Associate Member present: John Williams.

Other Member present: John Godfrey.

In attendance: From the Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Robertson and Brian O'Neal, Research Officers.

Main Estimates--Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT (House of Commons)

The Committee resumed consideration of its Order of Reference dated Thursday, February 20, 1997, in relation to the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998.

The Committee resumed consideration of Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT--House of Commons and of John Williams' notice of motion of April 8 1997 (See Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence, Tuesday, April 8, 1997 Meeting No. 39).

John Williams moved,--That, Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT ($213,600,000) (less $160,200,000 voted as interim supply) be reduced by $209,466, to $53,190,534.

After debate, the question being put on the motion, it was negatived, on division.

Vote 5 under PARLIAMENT carried, on division.

ORDERED,--That, the Chair present a report to the House.

Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply

At 11:36 a.m., the Committee proceeded to the consideration of the Report from the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply, tabled with the Clerk of the Committee on Friday, March 21, 1997, in accordance with the Committee's decision of March 20, 1997.

The Chair of the Sub-Committee (Marlene Catterall) presented the report to the Committee.

At 11:37 a.m., Bob Kilger took the Chair.

At 11:40 a.m., the Chair took the Chair.

At 11:41 a.m., Bob Kilger took the Chair.

At 11:50 a.m., the Chair took the Chair.

After debate, on motion of Marlene Catterall, it was agreed,--That the Report from the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply be adopted and that the Chairman present the report to the House; and

--That the Chair, in cooperation with the Clerk of the Committee, be authorized to make such typographical and editorial changes as may be necessary without changing the substance of the report.

On motion of John Williams, it was agreed,--That the Clerk of the House prepare draft amendments to the Standing Orders to reflect the recommendations of the Committees report to the House of Commons on the Business of Supply.

At 12:01 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Marie Carrière

Clerk of the Committee


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