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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 37

Thursday, April 29, 2004

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met in a televised session at 3:22 p.m. this day, in Room 237-C Centre Block, the Chair, John Williams, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Odina Desrochers, Paul Forseth, Marlene Jennings, Hon. Walt Lastewka, Dennis Mills, Hon. Shawn Murphy, Alan Tonks and John Williams.

Acting Members present: Diane Ablonczy for Philip Mayfield, Bill Casey for Peter Goldring, Rodger Cuzner for Dominic LeBlanc, Monique Guay for Roger Gaudet, Christian Jobin for Hon. Joe Jordan, Derek Lee for Hon. Robert Thibault, Judi Longfield for Beth Phinney, Pat Martin for Judy Wasylycia-Leis and Vic Toews for Val Meredith.

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Brian O'Neal, Analyst . House of Commons: Rob Walsh, Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel.

Witnesses: As an Individual: Pierre Leduc, Counsel to Gilles-André Gosselin.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), the Committee resumed consideration of Chapter 3, the Sponsorship Program, Chapter 4, Advertising Activities and Chapter 5, Management of Public Opinion Research of the November 2003 Report of the Auditor General of Canada referred to the Committee on February 10, 2004.

At 3:23 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:28 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Pierre Leduc made a statement.

Marlene Jennings moved, — That, notwithstanding the motion adopted on Friday April 23, 2004 and pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g), Chapter 3, the Sponsorship program, Chapter 4, Advertising Activities and Chapter 5, Management of Public Opinion Research of the November 2003 Report of the Auditor General of Canada referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts on February 10, 2004, this Committee invite the following witnesses to appear:

Monday, May 3, 2004

3:30 p.m.-5:30 p.m.

Clerk of the Privy Council

Tuesday, May 4, 2004

11:00 a.m.-1:00 p.m.

KPMG (in camera)

3:30 p.m.-5:30 p.m.

One representative of industry professionals

Wednesday, May 5, 2004

3:30 p.m.-5:30 p.m.

Mr. Ranald Quail

Thursday, May 6, 2004

9:00 a.m.- 11:00 p.m

Auditor General

11:00 a.m.-1:00 p.m.

2 experts (including C.E.S. Franks)

3:30 p.m.-5:30 p.m.

2 experts.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Rodger Cuzner, Marlene Jennings, Christian Jobin, Walt Lastewka, Derek Lee, Judi Longfield, Dennis Mills, Shawn Murphy, Alan Tonks — 9; NAYS: Diane Ablonczy, Bill Casey, Odina Desrochers, Paul Forseth, Monique Guay, Vic Toews — 6.

Diane Ablonczy moved, — That, in relation to the study of Chapters 3, 4, and 5 of the November 2003 Report of the Auditor General of Canada regarding the Sponsorship Matter, the Standing Committee on Public Accounts request the invoices and post-mortems referred to by Mr. Claude Boulay in his testimony before the Committee.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division: YEAS: Diane Ablonczy, Bill Casey, Rodger Cuzner, Odina Desrochers, Paul Forseth, Marlene Jennings, Christian Jobin, Walt Lastewka, Derek Lee, Judi Longfield, Dennis Mills, Shawn Murphy, Vic Toews, Alan Tonks — 14; NAYS: — 0.

At 3:53 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Elizabeth B. Kingston, Jeremy LeBlanc
Clerks of the Committee

2004/05/03 10:18 a.m.