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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 40

Tuesday, May 9, 2000

The Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs met at 11:11 a.m. this day, in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chair, Derek Lee, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Eleni Bakopanos, Ray Bonin, Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral, Jay Hill, Bob Kilger, Gar Knutson, Derek Lee, Carolyn Parrish, Jerry Pickard and Chuck Strahl.

Acting Members present: Maud Debien for Stéphane Bergeron; Ivan Grose for Marlene Catterall; David Pratt for Bob Kilger.

In attendance: From the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, Research Officer.

Witnesses: From the House of Commons: William Corbett, Deputy Clerk; Marc Bosc, Principal Clerk, Committees & Parliamentary Associations.

Consideration of the Fourth Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure.

The Chair circulated copies of the Fourth Report of the Sub-Committee on agenda and Procedure which reads as follows:

FOURTH REPORT OF THE SUB-COMMITTEE ON

AGENDA AND PROCEDURE

OF THE

STANDING COMMITTEE ON PROCEDURE AND HOUSE AFFAIRS

Your Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure met in camera at 12:00 P.m. on Monday, May 8, 2000 in Room 112-N, Centre Block, the Chair, Derek Lee, M.P., presiding.

Members of the Sub-Committee present: Marlene Catterall, Yvon Godin, Jay Hill and Derek Lee.

Also in attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: James Robertson, Research Officer.

Your Sub-Committee proceeded to the consideration of the Committee's future business and agreed to make the following recommendations:

  1. That the Committee adopt the following work plan to the end of June: a) Thursday, May 11 - Main Estimates for the House of Commons; b) Tuesday, May 16 - Order of Reference from the House of Commons of Thursday, March 16, 2000 concerning the confidentiality of the work of the Legislative Counsel, witness - Diane Davidson; c) Thursday, May 18, Main Estimates for Elections Canada; d) Tuesday, May 30 - Order of Reference from the House of Commons of Thursday, March 16, 2000 concerning the confidentiality of the work of the Legislative Counsel - consideration of a draft report; e) meetings in June to be on the Review of the Standing Orders, with the exception of f) Tuesday, June 13 - consideration of a report of the Sub-Committee on the Business of Supply.
  2. That the Clerk of the Committee be authorized to distribute the Background Paper on Electronic Voting prepared by the researcher to all members of the Committee.

At 12:15 p.m. the meeting adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Respectfully submitted,

Derek Lee, M.P.

Chair

 

It was agreed, - That the Fourth Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure be concurred in.

At 11:13 a.m., the Committee resumed consideration of the draft report on the proposed changes to the Standing Orders.

Gar Knutson moved, - That the proposed amendment to Standing Order 78(3)(a) in Recommendation 2 be amended by deleting all the words after Standing Order 76.1(10) and substituting the following therefor:

The motion shall not be subject to debate or amendment except after a Minister has proposed a motion pursuant to this section of this Standing Order, a period of time shall be made available, if required, to permit Members, including a Member of each officially recognized party in the House, to ask questions of the Ministers responsible for the conduct of the bill in the House and to comment briefly on the motion and to permit responses thereto, provided that this period shall not exceed thirty minutes. At the expiry of the time provided for such brief questions or comments or when no Member rises to be recognized, as the case may be, providing that the Speaker is satisfied that the motion is not an abuse of the practices of the House, he or she shall forthwith put every question necessary to dispose of the motion. Notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 45(4), for any recorded division demanded pursuant to this paragraph, the bells to call in the Members shall be sounded for not more than fifteen minutes. Any proceedings interrupted pursuant to this section of this Standing Order shall be deemed adjourned.

After debate, on motion of Chuck Strahl, it was agreed, - That the amendment be amended by deleting the word "except" in the first line and adding thereto a period and the word "However";

and adding after the words "…bill in the House and to comment briefly on the motion" the following words thereto "and the bill".

The question being put on the amendment, as amended, it was agreed to.

And the question being put on the draft report, as amended, it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS:

Eleni Bakopanos

Ray Bonin

Ivan Grose

Jay Hill

Bob Kilger

Gar Knutson

Carolyn Parrish

Jerry Pickard

Chuck Strahl -- (9)

 

NAYS:

Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral

Maud Debien -- (2)

It was agreed, - That the draft report, as amended, be adopted as the Committee's Report to the House and that the Chair present the Report to the House.

It was agreed, - That the Committee append to its Report dissenting opinions from the opposition parties and that they be submitted electronically to the Clerk of the Committee in both official languages no later than 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 10, 2000.

At 11:51 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Santosh Sirpaul

Committee Clerk