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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 89
Wednesday, November 1, 2023, 4:31 p.m. to 6:32 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Michael Barrett moved, — That the committee, considering the government’s unsatisfactory response to the order adopted on October 18, 2023, and its failure to respond to the order adopted on October 30, 2023, orders the Department of Industry to produce the unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada, in both official languages, within 24 hours, provided that, if this order is not satisfied, the Chair be instructed to present the following report to the House forthwith: Your committee recommends that an Order of the House do issue for the unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada, provided that it shall be laid upon the Table, in both official languages, no later than the sitting day following the adoption of this Order.

Debate arose thereon.

At 4:38 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The debate continued

At 5:25 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:47 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Amendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the following words:

"produce the unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada, in both official languages, within 24 hours, provided that, if this order is not satisfied, the Chair be instructed to present the following report to the House forthwith: Your committee recommends that an Order of the House do issue for the unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada, provided that it shall be laid upon the Table, in both official languages, no later than the sitting day following the adoption of this Order"

with the following:

"provide an unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada, in both official languages; review the appropriateness of any redactions; and where redactions are deemed necessary, an explanation be provided for each redaction, within 24 hours following the adoption of this Order".

Debate arose thereon.

At 6:08 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:16 p.m., the sitting resumed.

By unanimous consent, on motion of René Villemure, it was agreed, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “review the appropriateness of any redactions; and where redactions are deemed necessary, an explanation be provided for each redaction, within 24 hours following the adoption of this Order” with the words “review the need for redaction and, when deemed necessary, ensure that explanations are provided to justify the redaction of each of the redacted portions, and that this be provided to the committee within 24 hours of the adoption of the motion”.

The question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Pam Damoff, Mona Fortier, Lori Idlout, Mike Kelloway, Annie Koutrakis, René Villemure — 7;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Damien C. Kurek — 3.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

René Villemure moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “; and if this order is not satisfied, the Chair recommend that an Order of the House do issue for the unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada” after the words “24 hours following the adoption of the motion”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “if this order is not satisfied” with the words “if the committee considers that this order is not satisfied,”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the subamendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Pam Damoff, Mona Fortier, Lori Idlout, Mike Kelloway, Annie Koutrakis, René Villemure — 7;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Damien C. Kurek — 3.

The question was put on the amendment of René Villemure, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Pam Damoff, Mona Fortier, Lori Idlout, Mike Kelloway, Annie Koutrakis, René Villemure — 7;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Damien C. Kurek — 3.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, Pam Damoff, Mona Fortier, Lori Idlout, Mike Kelloway, Annie Koutrakis, René Villemure — 7;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Damien C. Kurek — 3.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the committee, considering the government’s unsatisfactory response to the order adopted on October 18, 2023, and its failure to respond to the order adopted on October 30, 2023, order the Department of Industry to provide an unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada, in both official languages; review the need for redaction and, when deemed necessary, ensure that explanations are provided to justify the redaction of each of the redacted portions; that this be provided to the committee within 24 hours of the adoption of the motion; and if the committee considers that this order is not satisfied, the Chair recommend that an Order of the House do issue for the unredacted version of Raymond Chabot Grant Thornton’s “Fact-Finding Exercise Report” for Sustainable Development Technology Canada.

At 6:32 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee