HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 3rd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 40

Friday, April 23, 2004

10:00 a.m.

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Prayers

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cotler (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Ms. Bennett (Minister of State (Public Health)) , — That Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a third time and do pass;

And of the amendment of Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , seconded by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness for the purpose of reconsidering all of its clauses, with the view to eliminate loopholes identified by the nation's most notorious child pornographer, Robin Sharpe.”;

And of the subamendment of Mr. Ritz (Battlefords—Lloydminster) , seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , — That the amendment be amended by adding the following:

“and that the Committee report back to the House no later than June 1, 2004. ”.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Bagnell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 373-0495 and 373-0575 concerning the income tax system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-373-11-04.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Vanclief (Prince Edward—Hastings) , from the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology, presented the First Report of the Committee (Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Patent Act and the Food and Drugs Act, with amendments). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-373-34.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 2 to 7, 10 and 11) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Obhrai (Calgary East) , one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 373-0742);

— by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 373-0743) and one concerning marriage (No. 373-0744);

— by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) , one concerning AIDS (No. 373-0745);

— by Mr. Martin (Winnipeg Centre) , one concerning health care services (No. 373-0746) and one concerning immigration (No. 373-0747);

— by Mr. Reid (Lanark—Carleton) , one concerning the Steven Truscott case (No. 373-0748) and one concerning the Food and Drugs Act (No. 373-0749).

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Pursuant to Standing Order 36(8)(b), the failure of the Ministry to respond to the following petitions was deemed referred to the Standing Committee on Health:

Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg—Jacques-Cartier) — Nos. 373-0366 and 373-0367 concerning AIDS.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 36(8)(b), the failure of the Ministry to respond to the following petitions was deemed referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West—Nepean) — Nos. 373-0369 to 373-0371 concerning AIDS.

Ms. McDonough (Halifax) — No. 373-0372 concerning AIDS.

Mr. Rajotte (Edmonton Southwest) — Nos. 373-0373 to 373-0378 concerning AIDS.

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Bagnell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) presented the answer to question Q-64 on the Order Paper.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 39(5), the failure of the Ministry to respond to the following question was deemed referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources:

Q-56 — Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) — With regard to the Southern Chiefs Organization in Manitoba, how much and what type of funding has the government provided, for each fiscal year since the organization's inception?

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cotler (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Ms. Bennett (Minister of State (Public Health)) , — That Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be now read a third time and do pass;

And of the amendment of Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , seconded by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-12, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness for the purpose of reconsidering all of its clauses, with the view to eliminate loopholes identified by the nation's most notorious child pornographer, Robin Sharpe.”;

And of the subamendment of Mr. Ritz (Battlefords—Lloydminster) , seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , — That the amendment be amended by adding the following:

“and that the Committee report back to the House no later than June 1, 2004. ”.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the subamendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, April 27, 2004, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the 20th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs be tabled and concurred in.

Accordingly, Mr. Lee (Scarborough—Rouge River) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 20th Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Order 114, the following changes in the membership of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts:

Dennis Mills for Maurizio Bevilacqua

Robert Thibault for Steve Mahoney

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 1) is tabled.

Government Orders

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-15, An Act to implement treaties and administrative arrangements on the international transfer of persons found guilty of criminal offences.

Mr. Graham (Minister of Foreign Affairs) for Ms. McLellan (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness) , seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness) , seconded by Mr. Bélanger (Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , — That Bill C-15, An Act to implement treaties and administrative arrangements on the international transfer of persons found guilty of criminal offences, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

Private Members' Business

At 1:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Sorenson (Crowfoot) , seconded by Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , — That Bill C-471, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (sexual assault on child -- dangerous offenders), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, April 28, 2004, immediately before the time provided for Private Members' Business.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Health) — Order amending Part I of Schedule I to the Hazardous Products Act, pursuant to the Hazardous Products Act, R.S. 1985, c. H-3, sbs. 7(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-373-846-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

— by Mr. Pratt (Minister of National Defence) — Report of the Military Police Complaints Commission for the year 2003, pursuant to the National Defence Act, S.C. 1998, c. 35, s. 82. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-373-733-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)

— by Mr. Valeri (Minister of Transport) — Reports of the Canada Port Authorities for the year ended December 31, 2003, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-373-611-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

— by Mrs. Barnes (London West) , one concerning marriage (No. 373-0750).

Adjournment

At 1:47 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until Monday at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).