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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 064

Wednesday, March 15, 2000

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Knutson (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petition:

-- No. 362-0559 concerning health care services. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-34-08.

Motions

Mr. Knutson (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister), seconded by Mr. Cullen (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), moved, -- That the House do now proceed to the Orders of the Day.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1161)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 143

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Elley -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 99

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-20, An Act to give effect to the requirement for clarity as set out in the opinion of the Supreme Court of Canada in the Quebec Secession Reference.

Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), seconded by M. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), moved, -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``Bill C-20, An Act to give effect to the requirement for clarity as set out in the opinion of the Supreme Court of Canada in the Quebec Secession Reference, be not now read a third time but be referred back to the Legislative Committee on Bill C-20 with instructions that the committee conduct further hearings and report to the House, not later than October 30, 2000, amendments to the Bill to provide a mechanism to ensure that all proposed amendments to the Constitution adopted by the Legislature of any of the partners in Confederation are brought to Parliament and considered in accordance with the opinion of the Supreme Court at paragraph 88.''

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the 18th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented on Wednesday, March 1, 2000, be concurred in.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass;

And of the amendement of Mr. Bachand (Richmond -- Arthabaska), seconded by M. Price (Compton -- Stanstead).

The debate continued.

At 5:41 p.m., by unanimous consent, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings, pursuant to Order made Monday, March 13, 2000, under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3).

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1162)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Anders -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Casey -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Price -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Vautour -- 14

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fournier -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Gruending -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Hilaire -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 249

The question was put on the main motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1163)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Gruending -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 208

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Price -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vautour -- Venne -- 55

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:32 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), -- That Bill C-223, An Act to amend the Witness Protection Program Act and to make a related and consequential amendment to another Act (protection of spouses whose life is in danger), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Copy of Order in Council P.C. 1999-2015 dated November 10, 1999, concerning the United Nations Afghanistan Regulations, pursuant to the United Nations Act, R.S. 1985, c. U-2, sbs. 4(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-305-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural resources) -- Amended summary of the Operating and Capital Budgets for the year ending March 31, 2000, of the Cape Breton Development Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, C. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-362-827-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister for International Trade) -- Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the First Report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, ``The Free Trade Area of the Americas: Towards a Hemispheric Agreement in the Canadian Interest'', (Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-1), presented to the House on Friday, October 29, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-362-1-01.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:32 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).