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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 031

Tuesday, November 30, 1999

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 362-0176 concerning parental rights. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-31-03;

-- No. 362-0193 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-18-10.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Scott (Fredericton), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the First Report of the Committee (Bill C-202, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (flight), with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-7.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 4) was tabled.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mr. Turp (Beauharnois -- Salaberry), moved, -- That this House instruct the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights to conduct a study of organized crime, to analyse the options available to Parliament to combat the activities of criminal groups and to report to the House no later than October 31, 2000.

Debate arose thereon.

Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint-Hubert), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by inserting after the word ``combat'' the following:

    ``effectively''

Debate arose thereon.

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Auditor General of Canada to the House of Commons (Volume II -- September and November 1999), pursuant to the Act to amend the Auditor General Act (reports), S.C. 1994, c. 32, s. 2. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-64-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mr. Turp (Beauharnois -- Salaberry), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Ms. Venne (Saint-Bruno -- Saint- Hubert), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot).

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to.

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, of Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mr. Turp (Beauharnois -- Salaberry), -- That this House instruct the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights to conduct a study of organized crime, to analyse the options available to Parliament to combat effectively the activities of criminal groups and to report to the House no later than October 31, 2000.

The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 59)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anders -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Epp -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Gruending -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 254

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- 0

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Brien -- Brown -- Caccia -- Canuel -- Desrochers -- Duhamel -- Harvard -- Laurin -- Marceau -- Pettigrew -- Vanclief


Pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 25, 1999, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Cauchon (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-10, An Act to amend the Municipal Grants Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 60)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cotler -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Gruending -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nunziata -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vautour -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 212

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Lowther -- Manning -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Reynolds -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 42

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Brien -- Brown -- Caccia -- Canuel -- Desrochers -- Duhamel -- Harvard -- Laurin -- Marceau -- Pettigrew -- Vanclief

Accordingly, the Bill was read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:54 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage of Bill C-224, An Act to establish by the beginning of the twenty-first century an exhibit in the Canadian Museum of Civilization to recognize the crimes against humanity as defined by the United Nations that have been perpetrated during the twentieth century.

Mr. Assadourian (Brampton Centre), seconded by Ms. Augustine (Etobicoke -- Lakeshore), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

Debate arose thereon.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Assadourian (Brampton Centre) laid upon the Table, -- Copy of documents concerning the recognition of crimes against humanity (English text only). -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-362-3.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Assadourian (Brampton Centre), seconded by Ms. Augustine (Etobicoke -- Lakeshore), -- That Bill C-224, An Act to establish by the beginning of the twenty-first century an exhibit in the Canadian Museum of Civilization to recognize the crimes against humanity as defined by the United Nations that have been perpetrated during the twentieth century, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

The debate continued.

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That Bill C-224, An Act to establish by the beginning of the twenty-first century an exhibit in the Canadian Museum of Civilization to recognize the crimes against humanity as defined by the United Nations that have been perpetrated during the twentieth century, be withdrawn, the Order discharged and the subject-matter referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage, and that the Committee report to the House no later than June 15, 2000.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Debt Management Report for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, S.C. 1999, c. 26, s. 23. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-205-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

-- by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) -- Reports of the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-648-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Milliken (Kingston and the Islands), concerning pornography (No. 362-0320).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:01 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:06 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).