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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 109

Wednesday, June 7, 2000

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Copy of a letter to Mrs. Sheila Copps from Mr. Guy Bouthillier concerning a contribution towards Canada Day in Côte Saint-Luc (French text only). -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-362-21.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 362-1215 and 362-1220 concerning immigration. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-19-15;

-- Nos. 362-1217 and 362-1221 concerning marriage. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-28-18;

-- No. 362-1218 concerning China. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362- 60-08;

-- No. 362-1219 concerning children's rights. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-49-05.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 33rd Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      In accordance with its mandate under Standing Order 92(1), the Committee has selected from among the items for which an order of precedence was established on or after Thursday, May 18, 2000, the following as votable items:
      C-321 -- Mr. Casson (Lethbridge)
      C-443 -- Mr. Sauvageau (Repentigny)
      M-210 -- Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants)
      M-418 -- Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South)

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 46) was tabled.

Pursuant to Standing Order 92(2), the Report was deemed adopted.


Mr. Scott (Fredericton), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Fifth Report of the Committee (Recommendations resulting from the Westray Mine Disaster). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-76.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 55) was tabled.


Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale), from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented the Sixth Report of the Committee (Crisis in Fiji). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-77.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 51) was tabled.


Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale), from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented the Seventh Report of the Committee (Bill C-19, An Act respecting genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes and to implement the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-78.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 45, 46 and 49 to 53) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), Bill C-486, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (expenses incurred by care- givers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the question be deemed put on Ways and Means Motion No. 11 and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until later this day, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That at the conclusion of today's debate on Private Members' Motion M-237, all questions necessary to dispose of the said motion shall be deemed put and a recorded division deemed requested and deferred until Monday, June 12, 2000, at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Ms. Meredith (South Surrey -- White Rock -- Langley), one concerning organ transplants (No. 362-1357);

-- by Mr. Pagtakhan (Winnipeg North -- St. Paul), one concerning breast cancer (No. 362-1358);

-- by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Douglas), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1359);

-- by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East), one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 362-1360);

-- by Mr. Harvard (Charleswood St. James -- Assiniboia), one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 362-1361);

-- by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), one concerning pornography (No. 362- 1362);

-- by Ms. Bakopanos (Ahuntsic), one concerning China (No. 362- 1363), one concerning breast cancer (No. 362-1364) and one concerning the National Missile Defence Program (No. 362-1365);

-- by Mr. Godin (Acadie -- Bathurst), one concerning the Canadian census (No. 362-1366) and one concerning the employment insurance program (No. 362-1367);

-- by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi -- Baie-James -- Nunavik), one concerning oil products (No. 362-1368);

-- by Mr. Hilstrom (Selkirk -- Interlake), one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 362-1369) and one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 362-1370);

-- by Mr. McGuire (Egmont), two concerning the Canada Post Corporation (Nos. 362-1371 and 362-1372);

-- by Mr. Turp (Beauharnois -- Salaberry), one concerning the Quebec Secession Reference (No. 362-1373);

-- by Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale), one concerning the situation in Ethiopia (No. 362-1374);

-- by Mr. Hearn (St. John's West), one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 362-1375);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1376);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), one concerning the tax system (No. 362-1377);

-- by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), one concerning health care services (No. 362-1378).

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF PAPERS

The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-30 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to "Notices of Motions (Papers)".

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Excise Tax Act and the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments.

Mr. Dion (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Cauchon (Minister of National Revenue), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Ms. Minna (Minister for International Cooperation) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Cauchon (Minister of National Revenue), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later this day, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made on Tuesday, June 6, 2000, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence), -- That Bill C-11, An Act to authorize the divestiture of the assets of, and to dissolve, the Cape Breton Development Corporation, to amend the Cape Breton Development Corporation Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1352)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 132

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Fournier -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Gouk -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Mancini -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 86

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bradshaw -- Lefebvre -- Nunziata -- Valeri

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Order made earlier this day, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), -- That a Ways and Means motion to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules and certain Acts related to the Income Tax Act, notice of which was laid upon the Table on Monday, June 5, 2000, be concurred in. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 11)

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1353)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 124

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Fournier -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Gouk -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 94

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bradshaw -- Lefebvre -- Nunziata -- Valeri -- Bradshaw -- Lefebvre -- Nunziata -- Valeri


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Cauchon (Minister of National Revenue), -- That the Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Excise Tax Act and the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1354)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- 124

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Fournier -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Gouk -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hearn -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 93

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bradshaw -- Lefebvre -- Nunziata -- Valeri

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:08 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Laliberte (Churchill River), seconded by Mrs. Desjarlais (Churchill), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should recognize the 55th parallel as the identified Canadian boundary for participation in the international circumpolar community; (Private Members' Business M-237)

And of the amendment of Ms. Lalonde (Mercier), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), -- That the motion be amended by replacing, in the French version, the word "frontière" with the following:

    "limite territoriale".

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Order made earlier this day, the question was deemed put on the amendment and a recorded division was deemed requested and deferred until Monday, June 12, 2000, at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), concerning aboriginal affairs (No. 362-1379).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:53 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).