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House of Commons of Canada
35th Parliament, 2nd Session

Journals

No. 126
Monday, February 10, 1997
11:00 a.m.

Prayers

Private Members’ Business

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members’ Business.

Ms. Beaumier (Brampton), seconded by Mr. O’Reilly (Victoria–Haliburton), moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should introduce legislation to protect public servants who report wasteful spending, illegal activities or any other incidents which threaten the integrity of the government of Canada. (Private Members’ Business M–263)

Debate arose thereon.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the recorded division on the amendment in relation to the Business of Supply, deferred to Monday, February 10, 1997, at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment, be further deferred to Tuesday, February 11, 1997, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

Private Members’ Business

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Beaumier (Brampton), seconded by Mr. O’Reilly (Victoria–Haliburton). (Private Members’ Business M–263)

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Interruption

At 11:54 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:06 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Government Orders

Notice having been given at a previous sitting under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), moved, — That, in relation to Bill C–70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, not more than one further sitting day shall be allotted to the consideration of the report stage of the Bill and one sitting day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the said bill; and

That, fifteen minutes before the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders on the day allotted to the consideration of the report stage and on the day allotted to the third reading stage of the said Bill, any proceedings before the House shall be interrupted, if required, for the purpose of this Order and, in turn, every question necessary for the disposal of the stage of the Bill then under consideration shall be put forthwith and successively, without further debate or amendment.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 216)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Allmand — Anawak — Anderson — Augustine — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélair — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bernier (Beauce) — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Bonin — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Caccia — Calder — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chan — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Cowling — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Easter — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Gaffney — Gerrard — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hickey — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Lee — Lincoln — Maloney — Manley — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Minna — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Phinney — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Serré — Simmons — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Brant) — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Zed --108

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Abbott — Asselin — Bachand — Bélisle — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Gaspé) — Breitkreuz (Yellowhead) — Chatters — Chrétien (Frontenac) — Dalphond-Guiral — de Savoye — Debien — Duceppe — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Gagnon (Québec) — Gauthier — Gilmour — Gouk — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hermanson — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Jennings — Johnston — Lalonde — Loubier — Marchand — Martin (Esquimalt–Juan de Fuca) — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Morrison — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Sauvageau — Scott (Skeena) — Silye — Solberg — Speaker — St-Laurent — Strahl — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Venne — White (North Vancouver) --50

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Arseneault — Assadourian — Bergeron — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Brien — Canuel — Cauchon — Crête — Deshaies — Dubé — Dumas — Fillion — Finestone — Fry — Godin — Harper (Churchill) — Landry — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Lefebvre — MacAulay — Marleau — Ménard — Parrish — Payne — Pomerleau — Robillard — Rocheleau — Shepherd — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Young

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C–70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 118 to 124).

Group No. 3

Motion No. 118 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 261.

Motion No. 119 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 262.

Motion No. 120 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans) (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)), — That Bill C–70, in Clause 262, be amended by

  1. replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 359 with the following:
    “province out of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act”
  2. replacing line 30 on page 359 with the following:
    “of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act to a person”
  3. replacing line 41 on page 359 with the following:
    “advance out of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act”.

Motion No. 121 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 263.

Motion No. 122 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 264.

Motion No. 123 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 265.

Motion No. 124 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 266.

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 3.

Statements by Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

  1. P.C. 1997-77. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-24I. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport);
  2. P.C. 1997-78 and P.C. 1997-80. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-8I. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade);
  3. P.C. 1997-79. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-18E. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health);
  4. P.C. 1997-81 to P.C. 1997-83. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-5I. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs);
  5. P.C. 1997-84. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-22G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry);
  6. P.C. 1997-85. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-6H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources);
  7. P.C. 1997-86 and P.C. 1997-87. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-10H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans);
  8. P.C. 1997-88 to P.C. 1997-91. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-16G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development);
  9. P.C. 1997-96 and P.C. 1997-134. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-352-14H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration).

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

  1. Nos. 352-1209, 352-1225, 352-1237, 352-1270, 352-1274, 352-1282, 352-1324 and 352-1360 concerning sexual orientation. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-45S;
  2. No. 352-1222 concerning the Criminal Code of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-15K;
  3. No. 352-1316 concerning material depicting violence. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-141;
  4. No. 352-1320 concerning the Canada-United States tax convention. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-88D;
  5. Nos. 352-1340, 352-1343 and 352-1346 concerning the tax system. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-24R;
  6. No. 352-1359 concerning taxes on books. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-129D.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Guimond (Beauport–Montmorency–Orléans), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Chapter 11 of the May 1996 Report of the Auditor General). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-75.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 1, 2 and 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 52nd Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following changes in the membership of Standing Committees:

Citizenship and Immigration

Bélanger for Bakopanos

Fisheries and Oceans

Steckle for Dromisky

Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Bakopanos for Loney
The Committee further recommends, that where a Member is appointed as permanent member to a Committee in accordance with this report and to which he was previously appointed Associate Member, that the name of the Member be struck from the list of Associate Members of the said Committee.
A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members’ Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Guimond (Beauport–Montmorency–Orléans), seconded by Mrs. Gagnon (Québec), Bill C–369, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (gaming and betting), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yellowhead), Bill C–370, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (income deferral from forced destruction of livestock or natural disaster), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Discepola (Parliamentary Secretary to the Solicitor General of Canada), moved, — That the 52th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

  • by Mr. Bevilacqua (York North), one concerning youth employment (No. 352-1629), one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 352-1630) and one concerning Canadian technology (No. 352-1631);
  • by Mr. de Savoye (Portneuf), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1632);
  • by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1633), two concerning police dogs (Nos. 352-1634 and 352-1635), one concerning sex offenders (No. 352-1636) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1637);
  • by Mr. Valeri (Lincoln), one concerning youth employment (No. 352-1638) and one concerning health care services (No. 352-1639);
  • by Mr. Lincoln (Lachine–Lac Saint-Louis), one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1640) and five concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-1641 to 352-1645);
  • by Mr. Morrison (Swift Current–Maple Creek–Assiniboia), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1646) and two concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-1647 and 352-1648);
  • by Mr. Solomon (Regina–Lumsden), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1649), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1650) and one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1651);
  • by Mr. Discepola (Vaudreuil), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1652);
  • by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1653);
  • by Mr. Murphy (Annapolis Valley–Hants), two concerning taxes on books (Nos. 352-1654 and 352-1655) and one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1656);
  • by Mr. McKinnon (Brandon–Souris), one concerning pornography (No. 352-1657) and one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1658);
  • by Ms. Augustine (Etobicoke–Lakeshore), one concerning AIDS research (No. 352-1659);
  • by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster–Burnaby), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1660) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1661);
  • by Mr. Taylor (The Battlefords–Meadow Lake), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1662);
  • by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1663) and one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1664);
  • by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), one concerning housing policies (No. 352-1665), one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1666) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1667);
  • by Mr. Hill (Prince George–Peace River), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1668).

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C–70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 118 to 124).

The debate continued.

Quorum

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C–70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 118 to 124).

The debate continued.

The question was put on Motion No. 118 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 4

Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), moved Motion No. 125, — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 270.

Debate arose thereon.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier today under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on Motion No. 125 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C–70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), — That Bill C–70, in Clause 26, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 45 on page 38 and lines 1 to 6 on page 39 with the following:

 
“(1.3)
Where
(a)
a registrant (in this subsection referred to as the “auctioneer”), on a particular day, makes a particular supply by auction of prescribed property on behalf of another registrant (in this subsection referred to as the “principal”) and, but for subsection (1.2), that supply would be a taxable supply made by the principal,
(b)
the auctioneer and principal jointly elect in prescribed form containing prescribed information in respect of the particular supply, and
(c)
all or substantially all of the consideration for supplies made by auction on the particular day by the auctioneer on behalf of the principal is attributable to supplies of prescribed property in respect of which the auctioneer and principal have elected under this subsection,
subsection (1.2) does not apply to the particular supply or to any supply made by the auctioneer to the principal of services relating to the particular supply.”

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 217)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Anderson — Assad — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bernier (Beauce) — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Bonin — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Caccia — Calder — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Cowling — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fontana — Gerrard — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hickey — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Karygiannis — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lee — Lincoln — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Maloney — Manley — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Sheridan — Simmons — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Brant) — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wood — Zed --114

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Abbott — Ablonczy — Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Gaspé) — Brien — Chatters — Dalphond-Guiral — de Savoye — Debien — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Langlois — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Plamondon — Robinson — Sauvageau — Scott (Skeena) — Silye — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Strahl — Taylor — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Venne — Wayne — White (North Vancouver) --51

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Allmand — Arseneault — Assadourian — Bakopanos — Bélisle — Bergeron — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blondin-Andrew — Brien — Byrne — Canuel — Cauchon — Crête — Deshaies — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Finestone — Fry — Gauthier — Godin — Harper (Churchill) — Landry — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — MacAulay — Marleau — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — Ménard — Parrish — Payne — Pomerleau — Robillard — Rocheleau — Shepherd — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Young

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Pomerleau (Anjou–Rivière-des-Prairies), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 69.1.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 218)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Gaspé) — Brien — Dalphond-Guiral — de Savoye — Debien — Gagnon (Québec) — Guay — Guimond — Jacob — Langlois — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Loubier — Marchand — Mercier — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Plamondon — Robinson — Sauvageau — Solomon — Taylor — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Venne — Wayne --30

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

— Abbott — Ablonczy — Adams — Alcock — Anderson — Assad — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/ — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélanger — Sud-Centre) — Bellemare — Bernier (Beauce) — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Bonin — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Caccia — Calder — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Chatters — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Cowling — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Duncan — Eggleton — English — Epp — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fontana — Forseth — Gerrard — Gilmour — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Grubel — Guarnieri — Harb — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Harvard — Hickey — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Johnston — Jordan — Karygiannis — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft — Sloan — Lee — Lincoln — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Maloney — Manley — Manning — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Meredith — Mifflin — Mills (Broadview--Greenwood) — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Scott (Skeena) — Sheridan — Silye — Simmons — Solberg — Speaker — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Brant) — Stewart (Northumberland) — Strahl — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — White (North Vancouver) — Wood — Zed--135

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Allmand — Arseneault — Assadourian — Bakopanos — Bélisle — Bergeron — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blondin-Andrew — Brien — Byrne — Canuel — Cauchon — Crête — Deshaies — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Finestone — Fry — Gauthier — Godin — Harper (Churchill) — Landry — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — MacAulay — Marleau — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — Ménard — Parrish — Payne — Pomerleau — Robillard — Rocheleau — Shepherd — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Young

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 3 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Pomerleau (Anjou–Rivière-des-Prairies), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 150.

The question was put on Motion No. 3 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 219)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Abbott — Ablonczy — Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Beauce) — Bernier (Gaspé) — Brien — Chatters — Dalphond-Guiral — de Savoye — Debien — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Langlois — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Plamondon — Robinson — Sauvageau — Scott (Skeena) — Silye — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Strahl — Taylor — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Venne — White (North Vancouver) --51

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Anderson — Assad — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Bonin — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Caccia — Calder — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Cowling — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fontana — Gerrard — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hickey — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Karygiannis — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lee — Lincoln — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Maloney — Manley — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Sheridan — Simmons — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Brant) — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wayne — Wood — Zed --114

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Allmand — Arseneault — Assadourian — Bakopanos — Bélisle — Bergeron — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blondin-Andrew — Brien — Byrne — Canuel — Cauchon — Crête — Deshaies — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Finestone — Fry — Gauthier — Godin — Harper (Churchill) — Landry — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — MacAulay — Marleau — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — Ménard — Parrish — Payne — Pomerleau — Robillard — Rocheleau — Shepherd — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Young

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 6 to 14, 16 to 53, 55 to 59, 61, 64 to 100, 102 to 113, 115 and 117 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), — That Bill C–70, in Clause 150, be amended by

  1. adding, in the French version, after line 32 on page 165 the following:
    “« activité extracôtière

    a) En ce qui concerne une activité exercée dans la zone extracôtière de la Nouvelle-Écosse, activité relativement à laquelle un impôt serait institué sous le régime de l’article 212 de la Loi de mise en œuvre de l’Accord Canada — Nouvelle-Écosse sur les hydrocarbures extracôtiers si la présente partie comptait parmi les lois sur l’impôt indirect, au sens de l’article 211 de cette loi;

    b) en ce qui concerne une activité exercée dans la zone extracôtière de Terre-Neuve, activité relativement à laquelle un impôt serait institué sous le régime de l’article 207 de la Loi de mise en œuvre de l’Accord atlantique Canada — Terre-Neuve si la présente partie comptait parmi les lois sur l’impôt indirect, au sens de l’article 206 de cette loi. »”
  2. adding, in the French version, after line 36 on page 165 the following:
    “« province » Y sont assimilées les provinces participantes.”
  3. replacing, in the French version, lines 1 and 2 on page 166 with the following:
    “« ‘province participante’ Province ou zone figurant à l’annexe VIII. La zone extracôtière de la Nouvelle-Écosse et la zone extracôtière de Terre-Neuve ne sont des provinces participantes que dans la mesure où des activités extracôtières y sont exercées. »”
  4. adding, in the English version, after line 17 on page 172 the following:
    “‘Newfoundland offshore area’ means the offshore area as defined in section 2 of the Canada-Newfoundland Atlantic Accord Implementation Act;”
  5. adding, in the English version, after line 22 on page 172 the following:
    “‘Nova Scotia offshore area’ means the offshore area as defined in section 2 of the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act;

    ‘offshore activity’ means

    (a) when used in connection with an activity carried on in the Nova Scotia offshore area, an activity in respect of which tax would be imposed under section 212 of the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act if this Part were one of the Nova Scotia Consumption Tax Acts (as defined in section 211 of that Act); and

    (b) when used in connection with an activity carried on in the Newfoundland offshore area, an activity in respect of which tax would be imposed under section 207 of the Canada-Newfoundland Atlantic Accord Implementation Act if this Part were one of the Newfoundland Consumption Tax Acts (as defined in section 206 of that Act);”
  6. replacing, in the English version, line 24 on page 172 with the following:
    “or area referred to in Schedule VIII, but does not include the Nova Scotia offshore area or the Newfoundland offshore area except to the extent that offshore activities are carried on in that area;

    ‘province’ includes a participating province;”
  7. adding, in the French version, after line 5 on page 173 the following:
    “« ‘zone extracôtière de la Nouvelle-Écosse’ Zone extracôtière au sens de l’article 2 de la Loi de mise en œuvre de l’Accord Canada — Nouvelle-Écosse sur les hydrocarbures extracôtiers.

    ‘zone extracôtière de Terre-Neuve’ Zone extracôtière au sens de l’article 2 de la Loi de mise en œuvre de l’Accord atlantique Canada — Terre-Neuve. »”

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 15, 54, 60, 62, 101 and 116 were also agreed to on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), — That Bill C–70, in Clause 150, be amended by

  1. replacing lines 6 to 8 on page 166 with the following:
    “(iii) the tax under section 165 that would have been payable by the person, in”
  2. replacing line 14 on page 166 with the following:
    “ported by the person, but for subsection 153(4), section 167 or the fact that the property or improvements were acquired by the person for consumption, use or supply exclusively in commercial activities,”
  3. replacing lines 27 to 29 on page 169 with the following:
    “(iv) the tax under section 165 that would have been payable by the person, in”
  4. replacing line 33 on page 169 with the following:
    “the participating province, but for subsection 153(4), section 167 or the fact that the improvements were acquired by the person for consumption, use or supply exclusively in commercial activities,”

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 63 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), — That Bill C–70, in Clause 204, be amended by

  1. replacing lines 6 to 13 on page 234 with the following:
    “(a) where the supply of the property was made”
  2. replacing lines 21 and 22 on page 234 with the following:
    “(b) notwithstanding paragraph (a), in the case of prescribed property”
  3. replacing line 26 on page 234 with the following:
    “(c) in any other case, the fair market”
  4. replacing lines 31 to 40 on page 234 with the following:
    “province becomes payable on the day the property is delivered or made available to the person in the province.”
  5. replacing line 3 on page 235 with the following:
    “(c) the property is a specified motor vehicle that is required to be registered under the laws of a participating province relating to the registration of motor vehicles or the property is included in Part I of”

The question was put on Motion No. 63 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 114 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry), — That Bill C–70 be amended by adding after line 45 on page 336 the following:

“253.1.
(1)
Schedule VI of the Act is amended by adding the following after Part VII:

PART VII.1
PRINTED BOOKS, AUDIO RECORDINGS OF PRINTED BOOKS AND VERSIONS OF SCRIPTURES OF ANY RELIGION

 
 
  1. In this Part, “printed book” does not include anything that is or the main component of which is
    1. a newspaper;
    2. a magazine or periodical acquired otherwise than by way of subscription;
    3. a magazine or periodical in which the printed space devoted to advertising is more than 5% of the total printed space;
    4. a brochure or pamphlet;
    5. a sales catalogue, a price list or advertising material;
    6. a warranty booklet or an owner’s manual;
    7. a book designed primarily for writing on;
    8. a colouring book or a book designed primarily for drawing on or affixing thereto, or inserting therein, items such as clippings, pictures, coins, stamps or stickers;
    9. a cut-out book or a press-out book;
    10. a program relating to an event or performance;
    11. an agenda, calendar, syllabus or timetable;
    12. a directory, an assemblage of charts or an assemblage of street or road maps, but not including
      1. a guidebook, or
      2. an atlas that consists in whole or in part of maps, other than street or road maps;
    13. a rate book;
    14. an assemblage of blueprints, patterns or stencils;
    15. prescribed property; or
    16. an assemblage or collection of, or any item similar to, items included in any of paragraphs (a) to (o).
  2. The supply of a printed book or an update of such a book.
  3. The supply of an audio recording all or substantially all of which is a spoken recording of a printed book.
  4. The supply of a bound or unbound printed version of scripture of any religion.
(2)
Subsection (1) comes into force on April 1, 1997.”

The question was put on Motion No. 114 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 51, NAYS: 114. (See list under Division No. 219)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 118 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mr. Fillion (Chicoutimi), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 261.

The question was put on Motion No. 118 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 51, NAYS: 114. (See list under Division No. 219)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 119 and 121 to 124 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 120 of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Secretary of State (Veterans) (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)), — That Bill C–70, in Clause 262, be amended by

  1. replacing lines 11 and 12 on page 359 with the following:
    “province out of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act”.
  2. replacing line 30 on page 359 with the following:
    “of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act to a person”
  3. replacing line 41 on page 359 with the following:
    “advance out of amounts received in a fiscal year under Part IX of the Excise Tax Act”

The question was put on Motion No. 120 and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 114, NAYS: 51. (See list under Division No. 217)

Group No. 4

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 125 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe–Bagot), seconded by Mrs. Picard (Drummond), — That Bill C–70 be amended by deleting Clause 270.

The question was put on Motion No. 125 and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 51, NAYS: 114. (See list under Division No. 219)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), moved, — That Bill C–70, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, the Income Tax Act, the Debt Servicing and Reduction Account Act and related Acts, as amended, be concurred in at report stage with further amendments.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division — Vote No 220)

Yeas — Pour

Members — Députés

Adams — Alcock — Anderson — Assad — Augustine — Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) — Barnes — Beaumier — Bélanger — Bellemare — Bertrand — Bevilacqua — Bodnar — Bonin — Boudria — Brown (Oakville–Milton) — Brushett — Caccia — Calder — Campbell — Cannis — Catterall — Chamberlain — Chan — Clancy — Cohen — Collenette — Collins — Cowling — Culbert — Cullen — DeVillers — Dhaliwal — Dion — Discepola — Dromisky — Duhamel — Eggleton — English — Fewchuk — Finlay — Fontana — Gerrard — Godfrey — Goodale — Graham — Guarnieri — Harb — Harvard — Hickey — Hopkins — Hubbard — Irwin — Jackson — Jordan — Karygiannis — Keyes — Kilger (Stormont–Dundas) — Kirkby — Knutson — Kraft Sloan — Lee — Lincoln — MacLellan (Cape Breton–The Sydneys) — Maloney — Manley — McCormick — McKinnon — McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) — McTeague — McWhinney — Mifflin — Mills (Broadview–Greenwood) — Mitchell — Murphy — Murray — Nault — O’Brien (London–Middlesex) — O’Reilly — Pagtakhan — Patry — Peric — Peters — Peterson — Pettigrew — Pickard (Essex–Kent) — Pillitteri — Proud — Reed — Regan — Richardson — Rideout — Robichaud — Rock — Scott (Fredericton–York–Sunbury) — Sheridan — Simmons — Speller — St. Denis — Steckle — Stewart (Brant) — Stewart (Northumberland) — Szabo — Telegdi — Thalheimer — Torsney — Ur — Valeri — Vanclief — Volpe — Walker — Wood — Zed --113

Nays — Contre

Members — Députés

Abbott — Ablonczy — Althouse — Asselin — Bachand — Bellehumeur — Bernier (Beauce) — Bernier (Gaspé) — Brien — Chatters — Dalphond-Guiral — de Savoye — Debien — Duncan — Epp — Forseth — Gagnon (Québec) — Gilmour — Grubel — Guay — Guimond — Harper (Simcoe Centre) — Hill (Prince George–Peace River) — Jacob — Johnston — Langlois — Lebel — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Loubier — Manning — Marchand — Mayfield — McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) — Mercier — Meredith — Nunez — Paré — Picard (Drummond) — Plamondon — Robinson — Sauvageau — Scott (Skeena) — Silye — Solberg — Solomon — Speaker — Strahl — Taylor — Tremblay (Rimouski–Témiscouata) — Venne — Wayne — White (North Vancouver) --52

Paired Members — Députés « Pairés »

Allmand — Arseneault — Assadourian — Bakopanos — Bélisle — Bergeron — Bernier (Mégantic–Compton–Stanstead) — Blondin-Andrew — Brien — Byrne — Canuel — Cauchon — Crête — Deshaies — Dubé — Duceppe — Dumas — Fillion — Finestone — Fry — Gauthier — Godin — Harper (Churchill) — Landry — Laurin — Lavigne (Beauharnois–Salaberry) — Lavigne (Verdun–Saint-Paul) — LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands–Canso) — Leblanc (Longueuil) — Lefebvre — Leroux (Richmond–Wolfe) — Leroux (Shefford) — MacAulay — Marleau — Martin (LaSalle–Émard) — Massé — Ménard — Parrish — Payne — Pomerleau — Robillard — Rocheleau — Shepherd — Tremblay (Lac Saint-Jean) — Tremblay (Rosemont) — Verran — Wappel — Wells — Whelan — Young

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage with further amendments and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Health) — Report on the administration and operation of the Canada Health Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Canada Health Act, R. S. 1985, c. C–6, s. 23. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-458A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

  • by Mr. Charest (Sherbrooke), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1669);
  • by Mr. Boudria (Glengarry–Prescott–Russell), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1670) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1671);
  • by Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa–Vanier), three concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-1672 to 352-1674), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1675) and one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1676).

Proceedings on Adjournment Motion

At 6:55 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Adjournment

At 7:11 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).