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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 108
Tuesday, March 19, 2024, 11:02 a.m. to 1:37 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
John Brassard, Chair (Conservative)

• George Chahal for Iqra Khalid (Liberal)
• Michael Cooper for Damien C. Kurek (Conservative)
• Mario Simard for René Villemure (Bloc Québécois)
• Francesco Sorbara for Hon. Mona Fortier (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Maxime-Olivier Thibodeau, Analyst
As an individual
• Michael Wernick, Jarislowsky Chair in Public Sector Management, University of Ottawa
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 30, 2023, the committee resumed its study of the decision of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) to not pursue a criminal investigation in relation to the SNC-Lavalin affair.

Michael Wernick answered questions.

Motion

Larry Brock moved, — That, Pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee order Mr. Wernick and the Privy Council Office to produce all records of communications between Mr. Wernick and any board members, employees, or representatives of SNC-Lavalin (now AtkinsRéalis) between the period of November 4, 2015 - March 19, 2024, and that these communications be provided within 14 days of the adoption of this motion.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words "and the Privy Council Office".

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Parm Bains, George Chahal, Pam Damoff, Anthony Housefather, Francesco Sorbara, René Villemure — 6;

NAYS: Michael Barrett, Larry Brock, Michael Cooper, Matthew Green — 4.

The debate continued on the motion as amended.

Amendment

René Villemure moved, — That the motion be amended by adding, after the words “within 14 days of the adoption of this motion”, the following: “; and that if within 10 days following the reception of Mr. Wernick's documents, the committee considers that the documents are not satisfactory, that the Privy Council Office provide all requested documents within an additional period of 10 days.”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “10 days” with the words “14 days”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of René Villemure, as amended, and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, Pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee order Mr. Wernick to produce all records of communications between Mr. Wernick and any board members, employees, or representatives of SNC-Lavalin (now AtkinsRéalis) between the period of November 4, 2015 - March 19, 2024, and that these communications be provided within 14 days of the adoption of this motion; and that if within 14 days following the reception of Mr. Wernick's documents, the committee considers that the documents are not satisfactory, that the Privy Council Office provide all requested documents within an additional period of 14 days.

At 1:37 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee