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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 36
Tuesday, November 15, 2022, 3:41 p.m. to 5:12 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Francis Scarpaleggia, Chair (Liberal)

• Bob Benzen for Robert Kitchen (Conservative)
• Chris Lewis for Damien C. Kurek (Conservative)
• Julie Vignola for Monique Pauzé (Bloc Québécois)
House of Commons
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Alison Clegg, Analyst
• Robert Mason, Analyst
• Brian Masse, M.P., Windsor West
Parks Canada Agency
• Andrew Campbell, Senior Vice-President, Operations
• Caroline Macintosh, Executive Director, Protected Areas Establishment Branch
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, June 8, 2022, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-248, An Act to amend the Canada National Parks Act (Ojibway National Urban Park of Canada).

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The Chair called New Clause 0.1.

Brian Masse and Caroline Macintosh answered questions.

On new Clause 0.1,

Patrick Weiler moved, — That Bill C-248 be amended by adding before line 4 on page 1 the following new clause:

“0.1The Canada National Parks Act is amended by adding the following after section 38:

38.1 (1) Sections 8 and 22 of the Rouge National Urban Park Act apply in respect to the Ojibway National Urban Park of Canada with any modifications that the circumstances require.

(2) In the event of a conflict between section 8 or section 22 of the Rouge National Urban Park Act as they apply to the Ojibway National Urban Park of Canada and this Act, the provisions of this Act shall prevail.”

Debate arose thereon.

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it was beyond the scope of the Bill, as provided on page 770 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

Clause 1 carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Bob Benzen, Gérard Deltell, Chris Lewis, Greg McLean, Julie Vignola — 6;

NAYS: Terry Duguid, Lloyd Longfield, Leah Taylor Roy, Joanne Thompson, Patrick Weiler — 5.

On new Clause 2,

Patrick Weiler moved, — That Bill C-248 be amended by adding after line 28 on page 20 the following new clauses:

“Amendment of Park Description

2 The Governor in Council may, by order, amend the description of the Ojibway National Urban Park of Canada set out in Schedule 1 of the Canada National Parks Act, as enacted by section 1 of this Act, by altering the description of that park to remove any land on which His Majesty in right of Canada does not have clear title to or an unencumbered right of ownership in the lands within that park.

Coming Into Force

3 Section 1 of this Act comes into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but that day must not be before the day on which the Governor in Council is satisfied that

(a) His Majesty in right of Canada has clear title to or an unencumbered right of ownership in the lands to be included in the park;

(b) the government of the province in which those lands are situated has agreed to their use for that purpose; and

(c) the Government of Canada has held meaningful and effective consultations with the Caldwell First Nation and the Walpole Island First Nation and has provided accommodations, where appropriate.”

Debate arose thereon.

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it sought to attach a condition to the coming into force clause, as provided on page 773 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Third Edition.

The Title carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Bob Benzen, Gérard Deltell, Terry Duguid, Chris Lewis, Lloyd Longfield, Greg McLean, Leah Taylor Roy, Joanne Thompson, Julie Vignola, Patrick Weiler — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

At 3:55 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committee continue to sit.

At 4:11 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), the sitting was suspended.

At 4:44 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Caroline Macintosh answered questions.

After debate, the Bill was adopted on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Taylor Bachrach, Bob Benzen, Gérard Deltell, Damien C. Kurek, Greg McLean, Julie Vignola — 6;

NAYS: Terry Duguid, Lloyd Longfield, Leah Taylor Roy, Joanne Thompson, Patrick Weiler — 5.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill to the House.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Julie Vignola moved, — That the committee commence hearing witnesses on Bill S-5, An Act to amend the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, 1999, to make related amendments to the Food and Drugs Act and to repeal the Perfluorooctane Sulfonate Virtual Elimination Act on Tuesday, November 29, 2022.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Bob Benzen, Gérard Deltell, Damien C. Kurek, Greg McLean, Julie Vignola — 5;

NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Terry Duguid, Lloyd Longfield, Leah Taylor Roy, Joanne Thompson, Patrick Weiler — 6.

On motion of Terry Duguid, it was agreed, — That the committee do now adjourn.

At 5:12 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre Longpré
Clerk of the committee