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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 050

Wednesday, February 16, 2000

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 361-2452 concerning tobacco. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 362-63-01;

-- No. 361-2480 concerning the regulation of food and drugs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-64-01;

-- No. 362-0048 concerning the criminal justice system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-3-03;

-- No. 362-0220 concerning China. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362- 60-01;

-- No. 362-0242 concerning the Food and Drugs Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-61-01;

-- No. 362-0281 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-15-09;

-- Nos. 362-0286, 362-0287, 362-0288, 362-0289, 362-0290, 362- 0291, 362-0292, 3620-0293, 362-0294, 362-0295, 362-0296, 362-0297, 362-0298 and 362-0299 concerning the economy. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-62-01;

-- Nos. 362-0406, 362-0448, 362-0474, 362-0475, 362-0478 and 362- 0483 concerning child poverty. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-16- 04.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Myers (Waterloo -- Wellington), from the Standing Committee on Health, presented the First Report of the Committee (Bill C-13, An Act to establish the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, to repeal the Medical Research Council Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-22.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 11 to 16) was tabled.


Mr. Myers (Waterloo -- Wellington), from the Standing Committee on Health, presented the Second Report of the Committee (Canadian Institutes of Health Research). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-23.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 15 and 16) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), Bill C-24, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, a related Act, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Budget Implementation Act, 1997, the Budget Implementation Act, 1998, the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, the Canada Pension Plan, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Act, the Income Tax Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act, a related Act, the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, the Budget Implementation Act, 1997, the Budget Implementation Act, 1998, the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, the Canada Pension Plan, the Companies' Creditors Arrangement Act, the Cultural Property Export and Import Act, the Customs Act, the Customs Tariff, the Employment Insurance Act, the Excise Act, the Income Tax Act, the Tax Court of Canada Act and the Unemployment Insurance Act".


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Excise Tax Act and the Budget Implementation Act, 1999, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), Bill C-429, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of mechanics' tool expenses), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay -- Boundary -- Okanagan), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), Bill C-430, An Act to amend the Canada Health Act (conditions for contributions), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), Bill C-431, An Act to amend the Indian Act (election of chiefs and councils), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis), seconded by Mr. Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Henri), Bill C-432, An Act respecting Raoul Wallenberg Day, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

First Reading of Senate Public Bills

Pursuant to Standing Order 69(2), on motion of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), Bill S-3, An Act to implement an agreement, conventions and protocols between Canada and Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Algeria, Bulgaria, Portugal, Uzbekistan, Jordan, Japan and Luxembourg for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income, was read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver), moved, -- That the First Report of the Standing Joint Committee on Scrutiny of Regulations, presented on Friday, December 10, 1999, be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 686)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Elley -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Grose -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harris -- Herron -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Pankiw -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Penson -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vellacott -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 162

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bigras -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dockrill -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Sauvageau -- Solomon -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Venne -- 42

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Gouk (Kootenay -- Boundary -- Okanagan), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-0585), one concerning the highway system (No. 362-0586), one concerning the labelling of food products (No. 362-0587) and one concerning pornography (No. 362-0588);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), one concerning gasoline additives (No. 362-0589) and one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0590);

-- by Mr. Hill (Prince George - Peace River), one concerning a witness and informant protection program (No. 362-0591);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning genetic engineering (No. 362-0592);

-- by Mr. Elley (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-0593) and one concerning the labelling of food products (No. 362-0594);

-- by Mr. Brison (Kings -- Hants), one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0595);

-- by Ms. Augustine (Etobicoke -- Lakeshore), one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0596), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 362- 0597), one concerning crimes against humanity (No. 362-0598) and one concerning the mistreatment of animals (No. 362-0599);

-- by Mr. Goldring (Edmonton East), two concerning the official languages of Canada (Nos. 362-0600 and 362-0601);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0602);

-- by Mr. White (North Vancouver), one concerning immigration (No. 362-0603);

-- by Mr. Casson (Lethbridge), one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0604) and one concerning the tax system (No. 362-0605);

-- by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), one concerning the tax system (No. 362-0606) and one concerning pornography (No. 362-0607);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning immigration (No. 362- 0608) and one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0609).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-6, Q-48, Q-51, Q-60, Q-62 and Q-65 on the Order Paper.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-19 -- Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre) -- With respect to the import of what is or was known as 'grey market' direct-to-home or digital satellite systems and digital broadcasting equipment, devices or components which are deemed to be in violation of sections 9 and/or 10 of the Radiocommunication Act: (a) what federal taxes and/or duties have been collected from those importing this equipment into Canada; (b) what is the estimated amount of federal taxes collected on the import of this equipment for each year since 1993; (c) what is the estimated amount of customs duties collected on the import of this equipment for each year since 1993; and (d) what is the estimated value of this type of equipment which has been imported into Canada?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-19.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-35 -- Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) -- For the financial year 1999-2000, how much money has the government (a) spent before September 1, 1999, and (b) allocated for the reduction of smoking, in each of the following activity areas: (i) anti-smoking programs aimed at youth and young Canadians, (ii) research into tobacco use and its consequences, (iii) enforcement of federal laws on tobacco use, (iv) enforcement of laws against cigarette smuggling, (v) measurement of the tobacco use by Canadians, (vi) development of regulations under the new Tobacco Act, (vii) costs associated with the tobacco industry challenge of the Tobacco Act, (viii) cessation programs or other support for Canadians addicted to cigarettes, and (ix) grants and/or contributions to health and community organizations?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-35.

NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THE PRODUCTION OF PAPERS

Ordered, -- That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all studies and/or reports since September 1993 of the operational and regulatory costs of the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to Canadian industry and/or consumers. (Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-8 -- Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre))

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8550-362-8.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Ms. Caplan (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), -- That Bill C-11, An Act to authorize the divestiture of the assets of, and to dissolve, the Cape Breton Development Corporation, to amend the Cape Breton Development Corporation Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations;

And of the amendment of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mancini (Sydney -- Victoria), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    "Bill C-11, An Act to authorize the divestiture of the assets of, and to dissolve, the Cape Breton Development Corporation, to amend the Cape Breton Development Corporation Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be not now read a second time but that the Order be discharged, the Bill withdrawn, and the subject-matter thereof referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations."

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:28 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities of Bill C-203, An Act to amend the Auditor General Act (Poverty Commissioner).

Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

Debate arose thereon.

INTERRUPTION

At 6:00 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:19 p.m., the sitting resumed.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Gagnon (Québec), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), -- That Bill C- 203, An Act to amend the Auditor General Act (Poverty Commissioner), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Report on Exemptions Issued to Masters, Mates and Engineers for the year 1999, pursuant to the Canada Shipping Act, R.S. 1985, c. S-9, sbs. 132(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-239-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summary of the Corporate Plan for 2000 to 2004, and the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2000 of the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-362-811-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- Report concerning Trade Unions registered in the Office of the Registrar General of Canada for the year 1999, pursuant to the Trade Unions Act, R. S. 1985, c. T-14, s. 30. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-411-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry) -- List of Commissions issued for the year 1999, pursuant to the Public Officers Act, R. S. 1985, c. P-31, s. 4. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-413-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:42 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:00 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).