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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 048

Monday, February 14, 2000

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-205, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of expenses incurred by a mechanic for tools required in employment).

Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte-de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau -- Mirabel), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading stage of Bill C-2, An Act respecting the election of members to the House of Commons, repealing other Acts relating to elections and making consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 87 to 105, 109, 111 to 123, 125, 128 to 135 and 139 to 141).

Group No. 2

Motion No. 87 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 370, be amended by replacing lines 40 to 43 on page 152 with the following:

''370. (1) An eligible party becomes a registered party if its applica-''

Motion No. 88 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 370, be amended by replacing line 42 on page 152 with the following:

"nomination has been confirmed in 12 electoral"

Motion No. 89 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 370, be amended by replacing lines 2 to 5 on page 153 with the following:

''tion to become registered becomes a registered party for the next following general election if it satisfies the requirements of subsection (1).''

Motion No. 90 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 372, be amended

(a) by replacing line 34 on page 153 with the following:

    "(a) a statement, in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, of its assets and liabilities"

(b) by replacing line 39 on page 153 with the following:

    "in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles that contains the auditor's opinion as to"

Motion No. 91 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), moved, -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 385.

Motion No. 92 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 385, be amended by replacing line 21 on page 157 with the following:

"endorsed a candidate in at least 12 electoral"

Motion No. 93 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 385, be amended by replacing line 21 on page 157 with the following:

"endorsed a candidat in at least 12 electoral"

Motion No. 94 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 393, be amended

(a) by replacing line 4 on page 160 with the following:

    "(a) a statement, in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, of the fair market value of"

(b) by replacing line 10 on page 160 with the following:

    "in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and containing the auditor's opinion as to"

Motion No. 95 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 394.

Motion No. 96 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 395.

Motion No. 97 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by deleting Clause 396.

Motion No. 98 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 398, be amended by replacing lines 28 to 31 on page 161 with the following:

"398. (1) The Chief Electoral Officer shall deregister a suspended party on the day on''

Motion No. 99 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 398, be amended by deleting lines 39 to 46 on page 161 and lines 1 to 10 on page 162.

Motion No. 100 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 404, be amended by replacing lines 12 to 35 on page 165 with the following:

"404. (1) Subject to subsection (1.1), no person other than an elector is eligible to make a contribution to a registered party, to one of its trust funds, to an electoral district association, to a candidate or to a trust fund established for the election of a candidate endorsed by the registered party, but an elector shall not, in one financial year, contribute a total of more than $5,000.

(1.1) For greater certainty, an electoral district association of a registered party, or a candidate endorsed by a registered party, may transfer contributions to the registered party.

(2) Where a contribution is received from a contributor other than a contributor referred to in subsection (1), or where a contribution is received that is more than the limit provided for in that subsection, the chief agent of the registered party or official agent of the candidate, as the case may be, shall, within 30 days after becoming aware of the contributor's ineligibility or the fact that the contribution is more than the limit, return the contribution unused or, where the contribution is more than the limit provided for in subsection (1.1), an amount of money that is equal to the value of the part of the contribution that is more than the limit, to the contributor; or, if that is not practicable, shall pay the amount of the contribution or, in the case of a non-monetary contribution, an amount of money equal to its value or to the value of the part of the contribution that is more than the limit, to the Chief Electoral Officer who shall forward that amount to the Receiver General."

Motion No. 101 of Mr. Bryden (Wentworth -- Burlington), seconded by Mr. Bonin (Nickel Belt), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 404, be amended by replacing lines 23 and 24 on page 165 with the following:

"(d) a foreign political party;

(e) a foreign government or an agent of one; and

(f) a person, organization or trust described in paragraphs 149(1)(c), (d), (f), (h), (i), (j) and (m) to (z) of the Income Tax Act."

Motion No. 102 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 405, be amended by replacing, in the French version, line 7 on page 166 with the following:

"enregistré, à une fiducie constituée pour"

Motion No. 103 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 405, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 11 on page 166 with the following:

"405. (1) No elector shall make a contribution to a registered party, to one of its trust funds, to an electoral district association, to a candidate or to a trust fund established for the election of a candidate endorsed by the registered party that comes from money, property or the services of another elector or another person or entity."

Motion No. 104 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 405, be amended by replacing lines 1 and 2 on page 166 with the following:

"405. (1) No person or entity shall make a contribution to a registered party, to one of its trust funds, to an electoral district association, to a candidate or to a trust fund established for the election of a candidate endorsed by the registered party that comes"

Motion No. 105 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 407, be amended by replacing line 35 on page 166 with the following:

"of a person as leader of a"

Motion No. 109 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 409, be amended by replacing, in the French version, lines 37 and 38 on page 167 with the following:

", ayant une incapacité physique ou mentale, qui est habituellement à sa garde;"

Motion No. 111 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 424, be amended by replacing lines 33 to 35 on page 173 with the following:

"tered party's financial transactions;"

Motion No. 112 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 424, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 14 on page 174 with the following:

"(a) a statement of contributions received from electors;

(b) the number of contributors;

(c) the name and address of each contributor who made"

Motion No. 113 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 424, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 174 with the following:

"(c) subject to paragraph (c.1), the name and address of each contributor"

Motion No. 114 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 424, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 174 the following:

"(c.1) in the case of a numbered company that is a contributor referred to in paragraph (c), the name of the chief executive officer or president of that company;"

Motion No. 115 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 424, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 26 and 27 on page 174 with the following:

"every contributor who made contributions of a"

Motion No. 116 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 424, be amended by replacing line 30 on page 174 with the following:

"period to which the return relates, as well as, where the contributor is a numbered company, the name of the chief executive officer or president of that company, as if the"

Motion No. 117 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 425, be amended by replacing lines 39 to 41 on page 175 with the following:

"(a) the contributor is not an elector; or"

Motion No. 118 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 425, be amended by replacing line 44 on page 175 with the following:

"in paragraph 424(2)(c) or the name of the chief executive officer or president of a contributor referred to in paragraph 424(2)(c.1) is not known."

Motion No. 119 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 428, be amended by replacing lines 9 to 20 on page 177 with the following:

"(a) a statement of contributions received from electors;

(b) the number of contributors;

(c) the name and address of each contributor who made"

Motion No. 120 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 428, be amended by replacing line 19 on page 177 with the following:

"(c) subject to paragraph (c.1), the name and address of each contributor"

Motion No. 121 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 428, be amended by adding after line 22 on page 177 the following:

"(c.1) in the case of a numbered company that is a contributor referred to in paragraph (c), the name of the chief executive officer or president of that company;"

Motion No. 122 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 428, be amended

(a) by replacing, in the English version, line 30 on page 177 with the following:

"ly accepted accounting principles, of the"

(b) by replacing, in the English version, line 34 on page 177 with the following:

"ly accepted accounting principles, of"

Motion No. 123 of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Rural Development)), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 430, be amended by replacing line 30 on page 178 with the following:

"on general election expenses in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and shall make"

Motion No. 128 of Mr. Epp (Elk Island), seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver -- Sunshine Coast), -- That Bill C-2 be amended by adding after line 18 on page 185 the following new clause:

"442.1 (1) The Chief Electoral Officer shall, after making the calculation referred to in subsection 442(1) and before the issuing of the writ for the election next following that calculation, calculate the final maximum amount referred to in section 440 for each electoral district for that election period.

(2) The final maximum amount for an electoral district calculated under subsection (1) must be sent

(a) to any person on request; and

(b) without delay to the member and each registered party that endorsed a candidate in the electoral district in the last election, together with the copy of the lists of electors referred to in subsection 45(1).

Motion No. 129 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 451, be amended by replacing lines 34 to 43 on page 189 and lines 1 and 2 on page 190 with the following:

"(f) a statement of contributions received from electors;

(g) the number of contributors;

(h) the name and address of each contributor who"

Motion No. 130 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 451, be amended by replacing line 1 on page 190 with the following:

"(h) subject to paragraph (h.1), the name and address of each contribu-"

Motion No. 131 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), moved, -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 451, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 190 the following:

"(h.1) in the case of a numbered company that is a contributor referred to in paragraph (h), the name of the chief executive officer or president of that company;"

Motion No. 132 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 451, be amended by replacing, in the English version, lines 16 and 17 on page 190 with the following:

"address of every contributor who made contributions of"

Motion No. 133 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 451, be amended by replacing line 21 on page 190 with the following:

"the return relates, as well as, where the contributor is a numbered company, the name of the chief executive officer or president of that company, as if those contributions"

Motion No. 134 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 452, be amended by replacing lines 19 to 21 on page 191 with the following:

"(a) the contributor is not an elector; and"

Motion No. 135 of Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), moved, -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 452, be amended by replacing line 24 on page 191 with the following:

"in paragraph 451(2)(h) or the name of the chief executive officer or president of a contributor referred to in paragraph 451(2)(h.1) is not known."

Motion No. 139 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 560, be amended

(a) by replacing line 38 on page 244 with the following:

      "(3) Subject to subsection (3.01), there may be deducted from the tax"

(b) by adding after line 22 on page 245 the following:

      "(3.01) Where a taxpayer has made a monetary contribution in the year to a registered party or to a candidate whose nomination has been confirmed in an election of a member or members to serve in the House of Commons of Canada and the taxpayer cannot deduct the monetary contribution under that subsection because there was no income tax payable by the taxpayer in the year, the taxpayer is entitled to receive a refund, in respect of the monetary contribution corresponding to an amount calculated in accordance with the formula set out in paragraphs (3)(a) to (c), provided the taxpayer has filed a receipt in respect of each monetary contribution with the Minister as required under subsection (3)."

Motion No. 140 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 560, be amended by replacing line 1 on page 246 with the following:

"(4) In subsections (3), (3.01), (3.1), (3.2) and (4.1),"

Motion No. 141 of Mr. Bergeron (Verchères -- Les-Patriotes), seconded by Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), -- That Bill C-2, in Clause 560, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 246 with the following:

"(4.1) In subsections (3), (3.01), (3.1), (3.2) and"

Debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 87 to 105, 109, 111 to 123, 128 to 135 and 139 to 141).

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 362-0003, 362-0004, 362-0037, 362-0115, 362-0116, 362-0127 and 362-0128 concerning the agricultural industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-11-02;

-- Nos. 362-0028, 362-0068, 362-0092, 362-0093, 362-0094, 362- 0095, 362-0096, 362-0097, 362-0098 and 362-0099 concerning aboriginal affairs. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-35-04;

-- Nos. 362-0190, 362-0191 and 362-0192 concerning the income tax system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-15-08.

Motions

Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg), seconded by Mr. Godin (Châteauguay), moved, -- That the Second Report of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented on Thursday, December 16, 1999, be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Karetak- Lindell (Nunavut), moved, -- That the House do now proceed to the Orders of the Day.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 670)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Axworthy -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harris -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Malhi -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Matthews -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- 137

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Riis -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 43

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), seconded by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport), -- That the amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-7, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act and to amend another Act in consequence, be now read a second time and concurred in.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


The Order was read for the consideration of the amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-6, An Act to support and promote electronic commerce by protecting personal information that is collected, used or disclosed in certain circumstances, by providing for the use of electronic means to communicate or record information or transactions and by amending the Canada Evidence Act, the Statutory Instruments Act and the Statute Revision Act.

Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), moved, -- That the amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-6, An Act to support and promote electronic commerce by protecting personal information that is collected, used or disclosed in certain circumstances, by providing for the use of electronic means to communicate or record information or transactions and by amending the Canada Evidence Act, the Statutory Instruments Act and the Statute Revision Act, be now read a second time and concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

QUORUM

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After three minutes, a quorum was found.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Kilgour (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), -- That the amendments made by the Senate to Bill C-6, An Act to support and promote electronic commerce by protecting personal information that is collected, used or disclosed in certain circumstances, by providing for the use of electronic means to communicate or record information or transactions and by amending the Canada Evidence Act, the Statutory Instruments Act and the Statute Revision Act, be now read a second time and concurred in.

The debate continued.

Motions

Mr. Brien (Témiscamingue), seconded by Mrs. Girard-Bujold (Jonquière), moved, -- That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 671)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- 35

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hart -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 163


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of C-10, An Act to amend the Municipal Grants Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations, with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 5, be amended by adding after line 25 on page 7 the following:

      "(1.01) If the Minister decides not to make a payment under subsection (1) to a taxing authority applying for it, the Minister shall, without delay, provide the authority with written reasons for that decision."

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 672)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 57

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 142

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 5, be amended.

(a) by replacing line 26 on page 7 with the following:

      "(1.1) If a"

(b) by replacing line 29 on page 7 with the following:

    "may supplement the payment but where the Minister decides not to do so, the Minister shall, without delay, provide the taxing authority to which the payment is to be made, with written reasons for that decision."

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 673)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 61

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 142

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Lebel (Chambly), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 26 on page 7 with the following:

      "(1.1) If a"

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 674)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 61

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 143

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 5, be amended by replacing line 35 on page 7 with the following:

"that the"

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 675)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 62

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 142

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 9, be amended

(a) by replacing line 27 on page 10 with the following:

      "(2) Subject to subsection (3), if a frontage or area tax is payable over"

(b) by adding after line 31 on page 10 the following:

      "(3) The Minister shall notify a taxing authority to whom a payment in lieu of a frontage or area tax is payable over a period of more than one year, which method of payment referred to in subsection (2) will be used to make the payment, and shall, without delay, after that notification, provide the authority with written reasons explaining why that method was chosen by the Minister."

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 676)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 63

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 141

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 10, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 12 with the following:

    "the Royal Canadian Mint, Canada Post Corporation and Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation and every corporation included in Schedule IV;"

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 677)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 64

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 141

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 11, 13, 14, 17 and 18 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 16 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 11, be amended by replacing line 39 on page 12 with the following:

"authority.

      10.1 Notwithstanding anything in this Act, where a corporation included in Schedule III or IV is authorized to make a payment to a taxing authority in lieu of a real property tax, a frontage or area tax or a business occupancy tax, as the case may be, pursuant to regulations made under subsection 9(1), and decides not to make that payment, the corporation shall, without delay, provide the authority with written reasons for that decision."

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 678)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 63

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 139

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 33 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Johnston (Wetaskiwin), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 13 the following:

      "(2.1) Where the advisory panel gives advice to the Minister under subsection (2) and the Minister decides not to accept that advice in exercising any power under this Act in respect of the subject-matter of that advice, the Minister shall, without delay, provide the advisory panel and the taxing authority in respect of whom the advice was given, with written reasons for that decision."

The question was put on Motion No. 33 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 679)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 60

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 136

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 34 of Mr. Lebel (Chambly), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 13 the following:

      "(2.1) The Minister shall, within thirty days after advice is received, cause a copy of the advice to be published in the Canada Gazette."

The question was put on Motion No. 34 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 680)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- 31

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Cauchon -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Hart -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 160

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 35 of Mr. Lebel (Chambly), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 13 the following:

      "(2.1) The advisory panel shall make available to the public any advice it gives under subsection (2)."

The question was put on Motion No. 35 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 681)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- 32

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Hart -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 161

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 36 of Mr. Lebel (Chambly), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 13 the following:

      "(2.1) The Minister shall make available to the public any advice received from the advisory panel."

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 682)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Sauvageau -- St-Hilaire -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- 31

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grewal -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Hart -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Obhrai -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Vellacott -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 161

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on Motion No. 37 of Mr. Lebel (Chambly), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), -- That Bill C-10, in Clause 14, be amended by adding after line 36 on page 13 the following:

      " (2.1) For greater certainty, the advisory panel shall give advice on the basis of any relevant evidence and after consulting with all interested parties."

The question was put on Motion No. 37 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 683)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Crête -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Grewal -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 59

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Augustine -- Axworthy -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Eggleton -- Folco -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Proulx -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Serré -- Sgro -- St. Denis -- St-Julien -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 134

Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Health), moved, -- That Bill C-10, An Act to amend the Municipal Grants Act, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 8:14 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 8:22 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).