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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 041

Thursday, December 16, 1999

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 361-2495 concerning health care services. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-34-02;

-- No. 362-0322 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-18-14;

-- No. 362-0340 concerning parental rights. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-31-05.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Cannis (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry) laid upon the Table, -- Report of the Canadian Tourism Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-362-87-01.

Statements by Ministers

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) made a statement.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the session of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Parliamentary Assembly, held in Nantes, France, from October 13 to 15, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565- 362-61-02.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the session of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Parliamentary Assembly, held in Istanbul, Turkey, from November 17 to 19, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565- 362-61-03.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Proud (Hillsborough) presented the Report of the Canadian NATO Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the 45th Annual Session of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, held in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, from November 11 to 15, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-50-03.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West -- Nepean) presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union respecting its participation at the 102nd Inter-Parliamentary Conference, held in Berlin, Germany, from October 9 to 16, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-60-02.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Charbonneau (Anjou -- Rivière-des-Prairies) presented the Report of the Canadian Section of the Canada-France Inter-Parliamentary Association concerning its participation at the 29th Annual Meeting of the Canada-France Interparliamentary Association, held at Laval, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver and Victoria, from September 8 to 15, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-55-01.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale), from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented the Second Report of the Committee (Exporting in the Canadian Interest: Reviewing the Export Development Act). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-18.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 15 and 16) was tabled.


Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West -- Nepean), from the Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament, presented the First Report of the Committee (Quorum). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362- 19.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 1) was tabled.


Mr. Easter (Malpeque), from the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans, presented the Second Report of the Committee (The Marshall Decision and Beyond: Implications for Management of the Atlantic Fisheries). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-20.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 2 to 5, 8 to 20, 21, 23, 25 and 26) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), Bill C-409, An Act to provide for the expiry of gun control legislation that is not proven effective within five years of coming into force, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis), seconded by Mrs. Kraft Sloan (York North), Bill C-410, An Act to prohibit the export of water from Canada by pipeline, railway tank car, tank truck, tanker or interbasin transfers, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale), one concerning the issuing of visas (No. 362-0376) and one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 362-0377);

-- by Mr. Lunn (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), seven concerning pornography (Nos. 362-0378 to 362-0384), one concerning immigration (No. 362-0385) and four concerning the tax system (Nos. 362-0386 to 362-0389);

-- by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), one concerning the labelling of food products (No. 362-0390);

-- by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Douglas), one concerning the human rights in the Americas (No. 362-0391);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), one concerning parental rights (No. 362-0392) and two concerning gasoline additives (Nos. 362-0393 and 362-0394);

-- by Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), one concerning the Senate (No. 362-0395), one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 362-0396) and two concerning the tax system (Nos. 362-0397 and 362-0398);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning health care services (No. 362-0399) and one concerning the situation in the Middle East (No. 362-0400);

-- by Mr. Plamondon (Bas-Richelieu -- Nicolet -- Bécancour), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-0401);

-- by Ms. Whelan (Essex), one concerning the public pension system (No. 362-0402) and one concerning marriage (No. 362-0403);

-- by Mr. McNally (Dewdney -- Alouette), two concerning the tax system (Nos. 362-0404 and 362-0405);

-- by Mr. Harvard (Charleswood St. James -- Assiniboia), one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0406);

-- by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte-de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), one concerning children's rights (No. 362-0407);

-- by Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 362-0408) and 10 concerning the tax system (Nos. 362- 0409 to 362-0418);

-- by Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), one concerning abortion (No. 362- 0419) and one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 362-0420);

-- by Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), two concerning parental rights (Nos. 362-0421 and 362-0422);

-- by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central), one concerning Old Age Security benefits (No. 362-0423), one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 362-0424) and one concerning immigration (No. 362-0425);

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Haliburton -- Victoria -- Brock), one concerning parental rights (No. 362-0426);

-- by Mr. Godin (Châteauguay), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-0427);

-- by Mr. Valeri (Stoney Creek), one concerning pornography (No. 362-0428) and one concerning the tax system (No. 362-0429);

-- by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan -- Shuswap), one concerning aboriginal affairs (No. 362-0430), one concerning immigration (No. 362- 0431) and 12 concerning the tax system (Nos. 362-0432 to 362- 0443);

-- by Ms. Leung (Vancouver Kingsway), one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 362-0444);

-- by Ms. Picard (Drummond), one concerning Canada's railways (No. 362-0445);

-- by Mrs. Kraft Sloan (York North), one concerning China (No. 362-0446), one concerning the mistreatment of animals (No. 362- 0447) and one concerning child poverty (No. 362-0448);

-- by Ms. Guay (Laurentides), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-0449);

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), four concerning pornography (Nos. 362-0450 to 362-0453), one concerning abortion (No. 362-0454) and one concerning parental rights (No. 362-0455);

-- by Mr. Perron (Rivière-des-Mille-Îles), one concerning the Canada Post Corporation (No. 362-0456);

-- by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), four concerning pornography (Nos. 362-0457 to 362-0460);

-- by Mr. Lebel (Chambly), three concerning the Canada Post Corporation (Nos. 362-0461 to 362-0463);

-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), one concerning international trade (No. 362-0464);

-- by Mr. Vellacott (Wanuskewin), two concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Nos. 362-0465 and 362-0466);

-- by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), one concerning the agricultural industry (No. 362-0467);

-- by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North), one concerning the tax system (No. 362-0468) and one concerning immigration (No. 362-0469);

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), one concerning tax system (No. 362-0470), one concerning children's rights (No. 362-0471) and one concerning parental rights (No. 362-0472).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-4, Q-18, Q-34, Q-38 and Q-42 on the Order Paper.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-26 -- Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre) -- What is the complete listing of veterinary drugs approved in Canada for use in food-producing animals (by species)?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-26.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order for Return:

    Q-33 -- Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) -- With respect to non-Canadian visitors (not immigrants) for each of the last five calendar years (broken down by citizenship or nationality): (a) how many visitors entered Canada; (b) how many visitors were issued visitor's visas pursuant to section 9 of the Immigration Act of Canada; (c) how many of those visitor's visas were issued to visitors who had criminal records (broken down by summary conviction and indictable offences); (d) how many visitor's visas were denied and of those how many were denied on the basis of the applicant having a criminal record (broken down by summary conviction and indictable offences); (e) how many visitors who had criminal records (broken down by summary conviction and indictable offences) were knowingly permitted and denied entry under the immigration officer's discretion pursuant to section 19(3) of the Immigration Act of Canada?

Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-362-33.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Mr. Rock (Minister of Health) for Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), moved, -- That this House take note of the First Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented to the House on Friday, December 10, 1999. (Government Business No. 4)

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent and pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau -- Mirabel) presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union respecting its participation at the Annual Inter-Parliamentary Union event held at the United Nations Headquarters, New York, from October 25 to 27, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-60-03.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House take note of the First Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented to the House on Friday, December 10, 1999. (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

QUORUM

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House take note of the First Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented to the House on Friday, December 10, 1999. (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, for the remainder of this day's sitting, the Chair shall not receive any dilatory motions, quorum calls, or any motion to extend the hours of sitting.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House take note of the First Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented to the House on Friday, December 10, 1999. (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed Bill S-3, An Act to implement an agreement, conventions and protocols between Canada and Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Algeria, Bulgaria, Portugal, Uzbekistan, Jordan, Japan and Luxembourg for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income, to which the concurrence of this House is desired.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That payment of the salaries of staff working under contract with the Standing Joint Committee on Scrutiny of Regulations be made by the Committees and Legislative Services Branch of the House of Commons on behalf of the Standing Joint Committee until such time as the Standing Joint Committee is able to make such payments or March 31, 2000, whichever is sooner.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House take note of the First Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented to the House on Friday, December 10, 1999. (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

ROYAL ASSENT

The Speaker informed the House that the Right Honourable the Deputy Governor General will proceed to the Senate today at 5:00 p.m., for the purpose of giving the Royal Assent to certain Bills.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

-- ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-21, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2000.

ROYAL ASSENT

A Message was received from the Right Honourable Antonio Lamer, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy Governor General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker, with the Commons, proceeded to the Senate.

The Commons returned to the Chamber.

Whereupon, the Speaker reported that, when the Commons had been in the Senate, the Right Honourable the Deputy Governor General was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to the following Bill:

    Bill C-4, An Act to implement the Agreement among the Government of Canada, Governments of Member States of the European Space Agency, the Government of Japan, the Government of the Russian Federation, and the Government of the United States of America concerning Cooperation on the Civil International Space Station and to make related amendments to other Acts -- Chapter No. 35.

The Speaker also reported that he had addressed the Right Honourable the Deputy Governor General as follows:

    ``May it please Your Honour:

The Commons of Canada have voted Supplies required to enable the Government to defray certain expenses of the public service.

In the name of the Commons I present to Your Honour the following Bill:

    An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2000.

To which Bill I humbly request Your Honour's Assent.''

Whereupon, the Clerk of the Senate, by Command of the Deputy the Governor General, did say:

``In Her Majesty's name, the Right Honourable the Deputy to Her Excellency the Governor General thanks Her Loyal Subjects, accepts their benevolence, and assents to this Bill.''

    Bill C-21, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2000 (Appropriation Act No. 3, 1999-2000) -- Chapter No. 36.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House take note of the First Report of the Standing Committee on Finance, presented to the House on Friday, December 10, 1999. (Government Business No. 4)

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:07 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs of Bill C-226, Parliamentarians' Code of Conduct.

Mr. Earle (Halifax West), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Minutes of Proceedings of the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons for November 23, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8527-362-9.

-- by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) -- Report on the Employment Equity Act (Labour) for the year 1999, pursuant to the Employment Equity Act, S.C. 1995, c. 44, s. 20. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 362-226-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) -- Report on Crown Corporations and Other Corporate Interests of Canada for the year 1999, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs.151(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362- 476-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Public Accounts)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Clouthier (Renfrew -- Nipissing -- Pembroke), concerning pornography (No. 362-0473).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:59 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:15 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).