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Committee Evidence - ENVI-164

2019-06-17

John Aldag - 16:26

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-17 16:26

Thank you very much to all of you for being here today. Great witnesses.

I was a former regional manager with the ministry of environment for southeastern B.C., responsible for ecosystems, fish and wildlife. Then I was manager of the East Kootenay conservation program involved in purchasing private land for conservation; so inherently, I care about every species.

The challenge we have is that many people look at life through economics rather than conservation. I'm wondering if we're starting to do a better job.

I know, Professor Kerr, you started to talk about the economic importance of species winking out, but why should people care about species winking out, from an economic perspective as well as a personal one?

I'll start with Mr. Chan and Mr. Kerr, and then I'd be interested in hearing from all of you on that.

Ecosystems Endangered species United Nations

Kai Chan - 16:27

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-17 16:29

Professor Kerr.

Jeremy Kerr - 16:29

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-17 16:31

I very much appreciate that.

Mr. Kraus.

Dan Kraus - 16:31

John Aldag - 17:31

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-17 17:31

I have to do a speech on climate change in about 10 minutes.

I have a question that I'll open up to the floor. There are a couple of aspects I want to talk about. One is the nature deficit disorder and the potential impact it has on whether youth today care or don't care about species at risk, and what more we should be doing there.

The other is that we did consider looking at the species at risk legislation as a committee. Quite frankly, my concerns in that regard is that some might have wanted to weaken the legislation, while others think there's certainly need for improvement.

If you have a particular opinion on either of those issues, I'd be happy to hear from you.

Ecosystems Endangered species National, provincial and territorial par ...Nature conservation United Nations

Harvey Locke - 17:32

Committee Evidence - ENVI-163

2019-06-12

John Aldag - 15:53

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:53

Thank you.

I want to start by thanking you for the work that you do and the work that you're going to be doing in costing out platform pieces going forward. I very much look forward to that.

Did you have an opportunity to look across the country at all? I'm from British Columbia, and of course we've had a carbon tax in place since 2008. I've been trying to figure out, as a citizen of the province, whether the federal plan would be more beneficial to me than the provincial plan as it currently exists. Did you have an opportunity to look at the efficiency of some of the other plans that are already in place?

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...British Columbia Carbon pricing Carbon tax

Yves Giroux - 15:54

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:55

When we were doing our study on climate change, we heard from farmers and people in the agriculture industry that there are certainly some reductions in carbon costs to them, but there were also other activities—such as drying grain, for example—that required a different kind of fuel that they were not compensated for. Did you have the opportunity to look by sector or business to see how farmers, for example, might fare under this program?

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Farming and farmers

Yves Giroux - 15:55

Jason Jacques - 15:55

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:56

Is that something you can do? Can you look at something like agriculture in general and decide whether there will be a net gain or cost under the program?

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Farming and farmers

Yves Giroux - 15:56

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:56

It would be some of it, yes, but there are other parts that aren't exempt.

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Farming and farmers

Yves Giroux - 15:57

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:57

I appreciate that information.

On the rebates, 80% of families will receive more money than the tax will cost them. You've suggested that for wealthier people, potentially that won't be the case. Is that because of the way the program was designed, or is it by accident?

In other words, is this a progressive tax that benefits poor people more than richer people, or did that happen by accident?

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Tax refunds

Yves Giroux - 15:57

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:58

Basically, it's a result of lifestyle, potentially, and not necessarily because of program design.

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Tax refunds

Yves Giroux - 15:58

John Aldag - 15:58

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:58

I know you're not allowed to release information on reports before you release them, but could you just summarize again? I'm quite interested in this report that you're going to be releasing tomorrow. Did I understand that it's a report on how much carbon pricing will have to be in order to reach Canada's GHG reduction targets? Is that what it's going to be?

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Greenhouse gases

Yves Giroux - 15:58

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 15:59

The timing is unfortunate. I'd love to be able to question that report as well. I guess we could filibuster right through until that report is released.

Voices: Oh, oh!

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Greenhouse gases

John Aldag - 15:59

John Aldag - 16:31

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 16:31

I think you've answered it, but people I talk to always have two questions. One is whether there is evidence that having a price on carbon will reduce GHG emissions. I think you've answered that, but I'd like you to speak to it again.

Second, as the price goes up.... I'll use a simple model. If somebody is paying $100 now because of the carbon tax and they're getting $110 back, if they ended up paying $200, do they potentially get a rebate that is the equivalent, so that they might get $220 back? Is there some sort of a magic number on the price of carbon, such that it starts to negatively impact even those 80% of families along the way?

Those are the two questions.

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Greenhouse gases Tax refunds

Yves Giroux - 16:32

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 16:33

It was on evidence showing that having a price on carbon does actually reduce GHGs, from your perspective.

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Greenhouse gases Tax refunds

Yves Giroux - 16:33

NDP (BC)

Wayne Stetski (Kootenay—Columbia)

2019-06-12 16:34

And as long as 90% of it is being returned, if the price doubles, there is still net benefit to the majority of families in Canada if they're under this particular pricing scheme.

8560-421-1119-38 Report of the Parliamen ...Carbon pricing Carbon tax Greenhouse gases Tax refunds

Yves Giroux - 16:34

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