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Committee Evidence - SECU-171
2019-07-15
Hon. John McKay - 13:29
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 13:29
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It's a little harder to ask questions without an opening to work off.
The first question I have is this. If somebody calls the RCMP with a suspicion of data theft complaint, how does the RCMP treat that from the get-go?
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Computer crime
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Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Mark Flynn - 13:30
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 13:31
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At what point does something become federal? If something is provincial jurisdiction but affects multiple provinces, does each province have to deal with it separately or is the RCMP able to step in at that point?
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Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Mark Flynn - 13:31
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 13:33
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In the case of the incident we're here to discuss, which is obviously a major incident, is the RCMP being kept apprised of what's happening, even if it's not their investigation?
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Desjardins Group
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Mark Flynn - 13:33
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 13:34
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Understood.
Okay.
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Hon. John McKay - 13:34
Hon. John McKay - 14:20
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 14:20
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About 15 years ago, I was in an IRC channel—I'm not sure whether you're familiar with that forum—and someone was selling credit card numbers, along with the three-digit code on the back and the billing address. Everything was ready to go. The person was offering to sell them to people. I felt that was wrong and I wanted to call the police or some other authority, but no one replied or knew what to do.
If someone saw something similar happening on the Internet today, is there someplace they could call to report it?
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Computer crime
Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Mark Flynn - 14:20
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 14:21
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What powers does the Canadian Centre for Cyber Security have? What can the centre do?
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Desjardins Group
e-Security
Privacy and data protection
André Boucher - 14:21
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 14:21
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I mean generally. At the centre, do you accept comments from people on the outside, or do you work only with businesses? Explain how it works, if you don't mind.
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André Boucher - 14:21
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 14:22
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Earlier, we were talking about passwords. Nowadays, we see two-factor authentication being used a lot more for bank accounts. Could the same thing be done for social insurance numbers?
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Desjardins Group
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Social insurance numbers
André Boucher - 14:23
Hon. John McKay - 15:40
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 15:40
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If they're willing to stay, I'd like to ask my questions.
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Alupa Clarke - 15:40
Hon. John McKay - 16:30
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:30
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I will continue somewhat along the lines of Mr. Motz's comments. Many of those who have not received a letter are worrying and wondering whether they are affected or not.
Can we say to all those who have not received a letter that they are not affected?
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Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Denis Berthiaume - 16:30
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:30
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So if someone does not receive a letter, they are not affected. Is that right?
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Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Denis Berthiaume - 16:30
Guy Cormier - 16:31
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:31
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That protection is a good thing, but in some of the towns in my riding, Laurentides—Labelle, a number of people don't have Internet access or a cellphone. They are fewer than when I first took office, but there are still some. A number of them have even lost their Desjardins branch. What can those people do?
I have had an account with Equifax for several years. When something changes, I receive an email, but I must go on the website to try to figure out what it is, as it is not clear at all. So for those with an Internet connection, the Equifax-provided information is unclear, and those without a connection have nothing at all.
You talked a bit about this, but could you elaborate further?
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Desjardins Group
Equifax Canada Co.
Privacy and data protection
Guy Cormier - 16:32
Denis Berthiaume - 16:32
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:33
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So Equifax, and not Desjardins, will take care of the technical aspect.
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Desjardins Group
Equifax Canada Co.
Privacy and data protection
Denis Berthiaume - 16:33
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:33
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Fine.
In your statement, you talked about changing our digital identity system. What examples would you like us to follow?
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Desjardins Group
Digital identity
Privacy and data protection
Guy Cormier - 16:34
Lib. (QC)
David de Burgh Graham (Laurentides—Labelle)
2019-07-15 16:35
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Very well.
I have one last question. What did the 2.9 million Desjardins clients who were affected have in common? Do we know why they were affected and not the others?
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Desjardins Group
Privacy and data protection
Denis Berthiaume - 16:35
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