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View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
To our witnesses, as our chair mentioned, thanks for coming on such short notice.
I have three questions. I have a lot more, but maybe I'll get three questions in.
Mr. Wilson and Mr. Kingston, just give me your thoughts. You guys talked about being in the States recently. Where do you guys feel the Democrats are after having those conversations? The sense we get from reading the paper is that they're nowhere close. We appreciate the importance of getting this thing ratified, but the challenge is that it doesn't appear that they're anywhere near.
What arguments can be made to say that the Democrats want to give Trump a victory on this thing? Do you have any thoughts on that based on your conversations with Democrats?
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
I get it. They're saying they'll get there, but they want to make a sea of changes. The challenge with us getting too far ahead of this thing is what changes they want. I could ask more questions on that, but I have to get to the eggs and the wine.
Mr. Pelissero, just to recap, on access you talked about an additional 11 million dozen eggs and 51 million under the WTO. Do we get reciprocal access to the U.S. based on that?
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Okay, good.
I only have two minutes left. The time goes by too quickly.
Mr. Paszkowski, I understand that you guys are saying you support CUSMA, in terms of how it is. The challenge you have is around the WTO challenge right now with Australia. As you said, we've seen over 400 wineries grow in the last decade or so, since we had a chance to look at VQA being excise-free.
Talk to us about the concern. This is a legitimate concern about what may happen under WTO in terms of our wine market. Explain that one more time.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you very much.
We're now going to move over to the Liberals, with Mr. Sheehan for five minutes.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
You're over your time. We'll give you about 30 seconds.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you very much, Mr. DiCaro.
We're going to move over to Ms. Ramsey for five minutes, please.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you very much, Ms. Ramsey.
Mr. Fonseca, you have five minutes.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you.
We're out of time. We're going to start our second round.
Ms. Ludwig, you have five minutes, please.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Bellegarde, we obviously get the fact that certainty is important. We also have the issue of what's going on in the States with the Democrats and stuff. I'd like your take on that. I know we want to show we're there. The challenge is that they're not there. How do you see this moving forward as we try to ratify but not get too far ahead, basing your understanding on your connections in the U.S. and what you've heard from the Democrats?
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thanks.
John and Bob, you guys talked about value add, and I think one of the things that we've talked about here at committee is the whole issue around competitiveness and how we do that.
I love the fact that you are finishing more product to send to the States or wherever the case may be. Talk to us about some of the things that you are working on, just so you can do more of that value add piece, which I think is key for everything we do.
It's one thing that we send our wood and our oil and all that stuff south, or we export it, but I'm a big believer that we should do more of that here in Canada, whatever that is.
Talk to us about the success of what you guys have been able to do, how you've been able to do that and what the challenges may still be.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
You're saying that you guys are ready to go, but it's a question of labour, and it's obviously a question of regulations, etc. Would you support, then, some type of lower skilled entry to Canada with a pathway to citizenship, permanent residency or a temporary foreign workers program that was more focused towards your particular sector? Obviously we have temporary foreign worker programs in certain sectors, and agriculture is one of them, but talk to us about the labour piece. What do you see as the way to help you with the labour piece?
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Sure, thanks. The clarity was around more skill, and that's where I was going, so thanks for clarifying that.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
To our witnesses, I'll reiterate what the chair said. Thank you for coming on such, such short notice.
Mr. Neumann, perhaps I'll start with you just in terms of the thought process here. Why do you think CITT didn't support all the other requests that were made—only two? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts or those of anyone else who wants to answer. Was it a timing issue? As I said, they came back and said, listen, two for sure we need to deal with, but as for the other five, no. Why was that? Was it a timing issue? I know that sometimes in the cycle that might be one of the issues.
To hitchhike on that question, Mr. Neumann, you talked about meaningful surges and stuff. I just want to make sure I understand; it seems we've sort of lost our ability to slap back any kind of duties on this in case there's an issue. Because the U.S. can put the duties on, I think what I was hearing you say was let's make sure we don't give them a reason to slap additional duties on. Does that concern you guys around investment and certainty here in Canada if the U.S. can say, hey, listen...? I'm not sure what a meaningful surge would be and who would determine that; maybe the U.S. We're not always sure, when Mr. Trump does what he does, that we understand why or how, etc. I would maybe just get your thoughts around that.
I have more questions, but I'll probably have to ask them in my second round. Perhaps we could start with those two questions initially.
View Dean Allison Profile
CPC (ON)
Yes, I know. That is a problem with politicians, for sure.
You talked about meaningful surges. My concern is that the U.S. can unilaterally impose tariffs if they see a meaningful surge. In your comments, you mentioned being concerned about that.
Are you concerned with the fact that the U.S. can snap tariffs back on?
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