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Lib. (ON)
Thank you very much, Madam Chair and members of the committee.
Thank you for giving me this opportunity to state my views on electoral boundary change.
I will start with the premise that the system is fundamentally flawed and fundamentally unfair. We get into a situation where we have four ridings in P.E.I. with an average of about 35,000 or 37,000 people. At that rate, in northern Ontario we would have some 22 members of Parliament, and now we will be down to 10.
The system and the process are even more flawed in this case. When the commission came to northern Ontario, they had only three hearings, which meant people had to travel 400 to 500 kilometres to attend one of those hearings.
They came up with some proposals. They stated at the upstart they would not derogate from the 25% provincial quotient and they would take into consideration the community of interest. They did exactly the opposite. We have a situation where, in Bob Nault's riding--I don't know if you've heard from him yet--it would be 42% of the provincial quotient, which is very high.
Basically, most members of Parliament in Ontario are very displeased with the process and the results. The commission then turned around and made some drastic changes, and I mean drastic. The original proposal was for the elimination of the riding of Nickel Belt. The last recommendation is for the elimination of Timiskaming--Cochrane. At that time, not too many people in Timiskaming--Cochrane filed objections. Of course, the riding was not disappearing, and it was very far from where they had the hearings, which was North Bay, Sudbury, and Timmins.
Since the last proposal came out, Madam Chair.... I have this file here. I don't know if it's possible for the committee clerk to photocopy it for the committee. I have every single municipality in the riding passing resolutions opposing the changes. I have every group you can think of, from farmers groups to co-ops to churches to ACFO, French groups, etc. The opposition to the changes is almost unanimous.
The last proposed change would basically cut everybody from the traditional community of interest. I'll give you some examples.
There are about 70 communities in my riding, all rural, the biggest being Kirkland Lake, at 8,000. I have the highest population of francophones in northern Ontario and the second-largest in Ontario, at 42%. My riding right now borders Quebec and we have a strong community of interest with the Quebec people. As a matter of fact, we started a group called Entre amis, Between Friends, which does cultural, economic, and social exchanges.
The proposed boundary would cut all of what they call the Clay Belt, which is Timiskaming proper. The riding right now goes to Cochrane and to West Nipissing and Sudbury East. I touch basically all the big centres in northern Ontario. So it would cut the Clay Belt in two, which means the Timiskaming traditional culture would be cut in half and they would be cut off from West Nipissing, which is one of the only other farming centres in Ontario.
As a matter of fact, in Timiskaming--Cochrane, if you add up those parts of Sudbury and Nipissing that are in my riding, I have 63% of all farmland in northern Ontario. They would cut that group into three different groups. They would cut ACFO, the Association canadienne-française de l'Ontario, in half. You would find yourself with people in the same francophone church separated, with people in the only French high school in the area separated. It would be a total division of every single community of interest or economic tie you can imagine. I think it would be the worst scenario we could see.
I have a proposition for the committee. The commission stated it would not go under the 25% quotient, and then they did exactly that at 42%. I don't know if he can bring us the numbers, but I believe if you retain the 11 existing Ontario ridings--you would redivide a little bit, with Sudbury and Nipissing--you could keep 11 ridings at about 72%, 73%, which is a little bit more than the 25% allowed, but still within the prerogative of the commission to do that.
Why would northern Ontario be required to have 90,000 people in a riding when Saskatchewan has only 63,000? And as mentioned by the previous speaker, Mr. Jackson, rural Canada is losing representation.
I'd like you to understand, those of you who come from bigger centres, that when you have 70 communities, about 35 of which are organized, you have 35 town councils to deal with; you have 28 legions; you have about 500 service clubs. On any given weekend, you have about 50 events that require you to be there. If the commission takes another riding out of northern Ontario, it's just plain impossible to do a good job as a member of Parliament.
I don't know what the power of the committee is. I don't know what the power of Parliament is, and whether it requires an act of Parliament that is recommended by the committee, but I think the system is basically flawed and unfair.
That's what I want the committee to recommend to the commission. If at the end of the day the commission finds it's totally impossible and they still want to eliminate a riding, which is opposed by every citizen of northern Ontario, at least have the commission do some further hearings in northern Ontario. The changes they are proposing now are totally different from what they proposed earlier. If you take the first proposal and then the second, you'll see they're like night and day.
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Lib. (ON)
So you understand the point. I'd like the committee also, when you make your recommendation for northern Ontario, to look at the whole picture, at what I've just said. Other ridings in Ontario have other members of Parliament who are in exactly the same position as I am in terms of community interests. The process and the recommendation are basically flawed for all of northern Ontario. I would like the committee to look at it from a northern Ontario perspective.
It is not a case of simply focusing on an individual riding, be it Timiskaming—Cochrane or Nipissing. We have to take into consideration all of northern Ontario and recommend that the 11 ridings in the region remain unchanged.
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Lib. (ON)
I live near Sudbury, in a little village called Markstay.
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Lib. (ON)
It is in Timiskaming—Cochrane at the moment, but with the new delineation it would be in Nickel Belt. It is just next to Sudbury, a little to the northeast.
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Lib. (ON)
Let me give you an overview of the current riding. It is about 500 kilometres long, from north to south. You would not be able to drive every road in the riding in a week. It is sparsely populated. It starts at French River and includes Noëlville, Alban, St. Charles, etc. It includes all of West-Nipissing and what we call the Sudbury-East area, in other words, Hagar, Markstay, Warren, etc. To the north, it takes in small sparsely populated villages such as Tilden Lake, Temagami, the Temagami First Nation, and the area that we call Tri-Town. It goes along the Quebec border and all the way up to 100 km north of Cochrane, where there are some other first nations.
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Lib. (ON)
No, that is as far as it goes to the northwest, but it stretches further north, to an area where there are some first nations reserves. Very few people live where.
At the moment, my riding goes to the North Bay border. It almost goes as far as Sudbury and Timmins.
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Lib. (ON)
Yes, Iroquois Falls and Holtyre.
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Lib. (ON)
No, that's in Timmins—James Bay.
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Lib. (ON)
I have already done so.
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Lib. (ON)
Sort of, but I thought that, in light of the radical changes that have been made, a recommendation from the committee... The commission has the right to decide what to do, but I think that the committee has the right to make suggestions to the commission. I know that you have no authority to order the commission to do something, but you can make suggestions.
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Lib. (ON)
The difference in my current riding is less than 25 per cent. My riding is the only one in northern Ontario where the difference is less than 25 per cent. I don't have the exact figures, but Timiskaming—Cochrane was about 68 per cent.
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Lib. (ON)
Approximately, yes. The commission said that that was not allowed, however, they created a 42 per cent reduction in Kenora. The commission should include more in Kenora, Mr. Nault's riding. Kenora would be happy to keep Rainy River. The commission ought to redo the boundaries so that all the ridings are at 27 or 28 per cent. That would allow us to keep our 11 ridings which would be better for representation.
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Lib. (ON)
That is how it stands at the moment.
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Lib. (ON)
That is why the system is unfair.
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