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View Diane Lebouthillier Profile
Lib. (QC)
Thank you very much.
Hello to all my colleagues.
Mr. Chair, I would like to take this opportunity, before beginning my presentation, to wish you a happy birthday.
Thank you for this invitation to provide details on the Canada Revenue Agency's strategies to combat tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance.
Let me begin by saying that the Government of Canada and the CRA are firmly committed to combatting tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance on all fronts. And we are all committed to making things much more difficult for those who choose not to meet their tax obligations.
In fact, since 2016, the Government of Canada has made investments that have helped provide the CRA with better data, better methodology and, ultimately, better results.
In particular, these investments have enabled the agency to develop a strategy that promotes global data sharing. Let's face it, tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance are complex global problems.
The CRA is working with international partners through various multilateral organizations, including the Organization for Economic Co‑operation and Development, or OECD, and its forum on tax administration, the FTA. I was pleased to see that Mr. Bob Hamilton, commissioner of the CRA, was appointed chair of the FTA in August 2020.
As a result of its modern and collaborative strategy, Canada is member to 93 tax treaties and 24 international tax information exchange agreements. In fact, Canada is one of more than 70 countries that exchange information through the country‑by‑country reporting system.
In addition, Canada participates in the electronic funds transfer reporting program, which is related to international electronic funds transfers over $10,000. And with the implementation of the common reporting standard in 2016, Canada, alongside nearly 100 other jurisdictions, benefits from financial institution data that identifies financial accounts held by non-resident clients for tax purposes.
With these improved resources and tools, the CRA is now able to focus on large multinationals, high net worth networks, the underground economy, cryptocurrency and real estate transactions.
The CRA is now seeing these signs of success because of the investments made by the Government of Canada.
In recent years, the CRA has assessed the equivalent of more than $12 billion each year through audits, more than 60% of which were related to tax avoidance by large multinationals and aggressive tax planning by high net worth individuals.
And I must note that these investments have generated approximately $5 billion in additional federal tax revenue, as of March 2021.
Additionally, the CRA's criminal investigations program has enhanced its ability to investigate the most serious tax crimes. It is important to note that the agency investigates complex cases in collaboration with its partners in the Department of Finance and the Department of Justice to close what may be perceived as legal loopholes. And I must remind you that the CRA has shifted its focus to more hard-hitting investigations, which result in more jail time and higher fines.
However, we must never forget that tax evasion often involves very complex domestic and international money transfer structures, which require the CRA to complete lengthy and time-consuming intelligence gathering processes.
I also want to note that we are increasingly seeing high net worth taxpayers using the court system when they are audited in order to avoid providing documents and information to the agency. And I want to emphasize that the volume of complex litigation is up significantly from previous years, with approximately 3,000 active cases considered high level in complexity.
As a result, first announced in the 2020 fall economic statement and confirmed in budget 2021, the Government of Canada has committed to invest $606 million over five years, beginning in 2021‑22, to continue this complex work.
These investments will close the compliance gap for high net worth individuals, strengthen technical support for high-risk audits, improve the CRA's ability to identify tax evasion involving trusts, improve the CRA's ability to stop fraudulent or unjustified GST/HST refunds, and, finally, improve the criminal investigations program.
In addition to the financial investments from budget 2021 legislative changes will also be put in place to strengthen the rules on transfer pricing, oral testimony, base erosion and profit shifting, and mandatory disclosure rules.
Before I conclude, I would like to wish the chair of this committee, Mr. Wayne Easter, a very happy retirement.
I want to thank you personally for your outstanding work on behalf of Canadians. We will miss you.
Mr. Chair, I am proud to say that the Government of Canada and the CRA have shown determination and innovation in creating effective and proactive approaches to identifying those who avoid paying their fair share of taxes or who are taking steps to do so.
Thank you.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, as I said, combatting tax fraud in Canada and abroad is a priority for our government. In fact, we see that budget 2021 includes numerous investments and also policy proposals that have been very well received and are based on the hard work done by CRA in this matter.
I do hope, Mr. Chair, that my colleague will vote in favour of our budget so we are able to move forward and serve Canadians well.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, I want to tell my colleague that before we can add up the amounts that were allocated to the Canada emergency response benefit, we have to wait for tax season to be over. We will then be able to collect the information.
However, I have to tell you that our government was very proud to be able to help Canadians at the beginning of the pandemic. I want to tell my colleague that it would have cost Canadians a lot more if our government had not stepped in.
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Lib. (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I thank my colleague for his question.
In 2013‑2014, the CRA did 43 audits relating to tax evasion. In 2019‑2020, 1,100 audits were done. We can clearly see that all the work we have done is bearing fruit.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, the Canada Revenue Agency treats all Canadians equitably. That is one of the CRA's principles. The clients are truly central to our concerns and we try to offer them the best service possible, that is, fair service. We make sure that everyone pays their fair share.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, our government respects the independence of the CRA. My role is not to order the CRA to undertake audits and I do not intervene in those audits.
That is really part of the CRA's process, unlike the Conservatives' approach. If my colleague wants more information about administrative matters, I can ask Mr. Gallivan, the assistant commissioner, to answer him.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, Mr. Kelly is asking questions about administrative matters. My role, as Minister of National Revenue, is not administrative, unlike the Conservatives when they were in power and did not hesitate to try to intervene in the integrity of the tax system. If Mr. Kelly wants to obtain accurate information in answer to his questions, Mr. Gallivan will provide him with it.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, I thank my colleague for her question.
I agree that combatting tax evasion is a difficult task for the government, a serious and complex one that takes time. We are tackling these very profound problems and very wealthy people who have the resources to hire the best lawyers and the best teams.
On the question of the Panama Papers, the government has invested over a billion dollars and has identified 900 Canadians. More than 200 audits have been completed and 160 audits are underway.
We have given the CRA the tools and resources to fight tax evasion. That fight was not a priority for the Conservative government, as was even confirmed publicly by one of their former ministers of national revenue, Jean-Pierre Blackburn.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, my colleague is asking me an important question.
In fact, all the work that has been started by the Canada Revenue Agency has to continue. In budget 2021, we propose to eliminate the loopholes that allow people to avoid paying taxes in Canada. We are providing an additional $304 million to modernize and improve the CRA's capacity to fight tax evasion. For the next steps, we want to modernize and improve Canada's general anti-avoidance rules.
I often hear the Conservatives talk about “the Liberals' pals” and it makes my hair stand on end. Because I have been at the Canada Revenue Agency since 2016, I have been able to see that it is the Conservatives who protect their pals. The Conservatives are the ones who don't want the wealthiest people, the ones with the means to pay lawyers and delay the processes, to pay their fair share. They are the ones who protect their pals, Mr. Chair, not the Liberals, who want everyone to pay their fair share.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, in 2019‑2020, more than 1,100 audits were done, unlike what was done in the past. For example, in 2013‑2014, 43 audits were done. So we see that the work is bearing fruit.
Thank you.
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Lib. (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I thank my colleague for all of his preamble and his long question. I have sincere sympathy for the victims of fraud and I understand how much it can affect their lives. However, I can say that under the provisions of the Income Tax Act, I can't comment on any specific case. As my colleague knows very well, I cannot give and I will never give the CRA any instructions concerning criminal investigations.
As is the role of our government, my role is to provide tools and resources so that the CRA, which is autonomous, can do its own work. Out of respect for the obvious principles of judicial independence, politicians must not ever interfere in investigations. That would be really very inappropriate.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, as you all know, committees are independent. You manage your own business.
What I am seeing at present is that my colleague wants to play police officer. I invite him to give up his seat as a member and apply for a position as an investigator with the RCMP, where there are vacant positions. He would probably be happier there than in his present position.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, I am going to ask my colleague to vote on budget 2021, which sets out proposals that really are even more useful for eliminating the loopholes used to avoid paying taxes in Canada, and that allocate additional money to the CRA so that it can modernize and improve its capacities.
In addition to all the work done and the agreements signed by the countries, I am also very happy to see that the United States has embarked on the same path. We are therefore going to work in collaboration with our partners. As I said at the outset, this is a long and complex issue, and I understand very well that the public are offended. We are continuing our work and we truly want to combat tax evasion. This is a priority for our government.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, I thank my colleague for his question. We know that I have very sincere sympathy for the people who have been victims of fraud, just as he does. I truly understand how much this can affect their lives.
However, as I said, and it doesn't bother me to repeat it, our government respects the CRA's status. I can't instruct the CRA to initiate audits and I do not intervene in audits. This is what protects the integrity of the tax system. We are going to continue doing the work we do, and because we want to keep moving forward, I invite my colleague to vote for the budget that has been introduced. It contains even greater resources to tighten the net and make sure that people pay their fair share.
If my colleague wishes to get any more technical and administrative information, Mr. Gallivan can answer him.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, we are taking on very wealthy people. These people have the resources to pay the best lawyers, the best tax law experts, and the best teams to defend them.
Canada adheres to the rule of law, and these people use all legal means available to them to ensure that they do not pay their fair share.
I invite my colleague to support the budget so we can provide the resources to do even more to deal with those who commit fraud.
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Lib. (QC)
As I have said multiple times since the meeting began, these are very complex cases.
I would ask my colleague not to act as if he doesn't understand simple things. If I were to interfere in criminal investigations, I would be before the committee being accused of exactly the opposite.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, I would like to tell my colleague that if she wants to change the laws, the Minister of National Revenue is not who she should be talking to; it's the Minister of Finance. The Minister of Finance is who prepares the legislation. At the Canada Revenue Agency, we just apply it.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, the CRA does not lose money every year fighting tax evasion. With the billion dollars that has been invested by our government, we have managed to recover $5 billion. Mr. Gallivan can provide all of the administrative information my colleague needs.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, I would like to remind my colleague that when we came to power, we raised taxes for the richest people, but lowered them for the middle class. From the beginning, we were here to help, through the Canada child benefit and the guaranteed income supplement. We instituted measures to help Canadians before the pandemic and during the pandemic, and we are going to be here to help after the pandemic.
I can understand that tax evasion represents money lost, for my Conservative colleague, since it was never a priority for the Conservative government and fighting tax evasion is still not a priority for the Conservatives today.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, in 2013‑14, the CRA did only 43 audits in connection with international tax evasion. For 2019‑20, 1,100 audits were done. My colleague said we are doing fewer audits. That is false.
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Lib. (QC)
I thank my colleague, who is also my parliamentary secretary, for his question.
Our government has invested over $1 billion in the Canada Revenue Agency. It actually had to organize an entire sector of the CRA so that, as I said, it could provide the resources and tools needed to be able to combat tax evasion. We had lost expertise. We have sought out people, we have signed agreements, country by country, and we are working with the OECD, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The CRA works at the international level. That is why it is so important to support the 2020‑21 budget. We are giving ourselves additional tools to ensure that the rules and the laws that enable us to take more effective action against tax evasion are tightened.
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Lib. (QC)
I thank my colleague for his question.
As I said, I can understand very well. I have enormous sympathy for the people who have been victims of fraud. I know how much this must affect them.
Out of respect for the obvious principles of judicial independence, I believe that politicians should never interfere in investigations.
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Lib. (QC)
I can understand my colleague's frustrations. For our part, we govern. We establish priorities.
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Lib. (QC)
That is what my colleague will never be able to do. I have told him repeatedly that the Canada Revenue Agency is independent. I cannot initiate an investigation—
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View Diane Lebouthillier Profile
Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, it is completely false to say that the ultra-rich have been treated with kid gloves. At least, that is not how I will treat them, because I have absolutely no respect for the people who defraud the tax system.
I don't know what my colleague is trying to do, but if he thinks we are going to solve everything, I think he is naive, because this is a global problem. As I said a little earlier, the ultra-rich pay ultra-lawyers and ultra-tax experts and do everything in their power not to pay their fair share.
That is why it is so important for our government to give the CRA the resources and tools needed to carry out investigations, which are ongoing at present. We have not yet achieved the anticipated results, but I can tell you that the CRA has done its job. I congratulate it.
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View Diane Lebouthillier Profile
Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, my colleague said that no investigation has been carried out, which is totally false. If he had listened to what Mr. Gallivan said, he would know that there are cases before the court as we speak. We have not yet achieved the anticipated results. It is not up to me to tell lawyers and the court whether they should proceed with a charge or not, because that is a completely independent process in which I do not intervene. What my colleague said is not true, and I urge him not to misinform the public.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, my colleague's question is really an administrative one, so I am going to ask Mr. Gallivan to answer it.
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Lib. (QC)
Mr. Chair, the questions my colleague is asking me are administrative questions. I can't answer administrative questions, because that is not my role as Minister of National Revenue.
I will yield the floor to Mr. Gallivan.
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