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View Pierre Paul-Hus Profile
CPC (QC)
Right now, in Canada, when I look at everything that is happening with National Defence and various departments, I believe that there is an urgent need to consolidate our actions, because we work a lot in silos. Bill  C-59 was passed two or three years ago to try to improve the situation, but perhaps the Canadian way of doing things is causing us problems. We often seem to think that we are nobody's enemy, but your report clearly shows that we are also under attack, not only from China, since we are here today to talk about China, but also from Russia.
The report also mentions that the possibility of attacks is linked to armed conflicts between states. Yet in the United States, pipelines have been directly attacked when there was no open conflict.
In Canada, could our oil and gas system be the target of this type of attack, even if there is no armed conflict?
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View Pierre Paul-Hus Profile
CPC (QC)
I believe that you spoke to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security two or three years ago about Bill  C-59 and cybersecurity operations, among other things. Lately, as a result of the COVID-19 crisis, we've seen that our security agencies don't have highly offensive capabilities, compared to the CIA, to counter external threats.
Do you think that, in Canada, we should start considering other ways of dealing with threats?
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View Pierre Paul-Hus Profile
CPC (QC)
Thank you, Major-General.
I'd now like to turn to Ms. Bruce, from the Communications Security Establishment, the CSE.
During his testimony, the minister spoke several times about amendments to the act. He was talking about Bill  C-59, which I worked on when I was on the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security. Offensive external response capabilities were assigned. We also identified an issue that wasn't necessarily addressed by the provisions of Bill  C-59, which was strongly siloed operations. We currently have with us representatives from the Canadian Armed Forces, CSE, and the Canadian Centre for Cybersecurity. There are often communication problems between these organizations.
Has this situation improved? Can you say that there is currently close co-operation between the military and civilians in Canada?
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