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2020-03-10
Hon. Marc Miller - 11:54
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Leah Gazan (Winnipeg Centre)
2020-03-10 11:54
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You're not answering my question. It seems that your government supports the rule of law when it suits your economic interests. I say that because many times we end up in these situations in Canada because our own laws, our court decisions, or the human rights of indigenous peoples or indigenous laws are not respected.
If upholding the rule of law means respecting law in court, we can hardly conclude that respecting the rule of law for indigenous people and their rights has occurred with this government. Do you agree?
Vous ne répondez pas à ma question. Il semble que votre gouvernement soutient la primauté du droit lorsqu'elle sert ses intérêts économiques. Si je le dis, c'est parce que bien souvent, nous nous retrouvons dans ces situations parce que nos propres lois, les décisions de nos tribunaux ou les droits de la personne des Premières Nations ou les lois autochtones ne sont pas respectés.
Si soutenir la primauté du droit signifie respecter la loi devant les tribunaux, nous pouvons difficilement conclure que le gouvernement a respecté la primauté du droit pour les peuples autochtones et leurs droits. Êtes-vous d'accord avec moi?
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Hon. Marc Miller - 11:54
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Leah Gazan (Winnipeg Centre)
2020-03-10 11:55
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Then just let me help you here. It took you three days to come up with an agreement in principle with the hereditary chiefs. I think it's called “political will”.
I have just one last question. In light of the situation with the Wet'suwet'en, is it critical that we achieve the full adoption and implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples? The last time your government stalled it. It's critical that we pass it. What's your timeline?
Alors, laissez-moi vous aider. Il vous a fallu trois jours pour parvenir à conclure une entente de principe avec les chefs héréditaires. Je crois que c'est ce qu'on appelle de la « volonté politique ».
J'ai une dernière question. Compte tenu de la situation des Wet'suwet'en, est-il essentiel que nous parvenions à l'adoption et à la mise en oeuvre complètes de la Déclaration des Nations Unies sur les droits des peuples autochtones? La dernière fois, votre gouvernement n'est pas allé de l'avant. Il est essentiel que nous l'adoptions. Quel est votre échéancier?
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Hon. Marc Miller - 11:55
Bob Bratina - 13:15
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Leah Gazan (Winnipeg Centre)
2020-03-10 13:15
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I will be splitting my time with Ms. Ashton.
I wanted to start with a question for you, Ms. Tait-Day. Thank you for being here today. I wanted to start by saying that as an indigenous woman, I echo your concerns that often our voices are muzzled. It's a fine time that our voices are lifted up. I wanted to honour that and honour that experience.
I know that you mentioned that the current relationship with the hereditary chiefs has had issues that reflect the patriarchy, but as you know, the Indian Act structure is also reflective of patriarchal domination. It continues to contain policies that continue to violate the human rights of indigenous women.
This is my question: In stating this, do you believe the way forward is to get rid of the Indian Act and replace it with the human rights contained in the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples? That also includes the right to self-determination over our economic, social and cultural development.
Je vais partager mon temps de parole avec Mme Ashton.
Ma première question s'adresse à vous, madame Tait-Day. Je vous remercie pour votre présence aujourd'hui. J'aimerais d'abord dire, qu'en tant que femme autochtone, je suis moi aussi préoccupée par le fait que nos voix sont souvent étouffées. Il est temps que nos voix se fassent entendre. Je tenais à souligner cela.
Je sais que vous avez mentionné que la relation actuelle avec les chefs héréditaires a connu des difficultés qui sont le reflet du patriarcat, mais, comme vous le savez, la structure de la Loi sur les Indiens est également le reflet de la domination du patriarcat. Elle contient encore des politiques qui bafouent les droits de la personne des femmes autochtones.
Ma question est la suivante: Compte tenu de ce que vous avez mentionné, croyez-vous que la solution est d'éliminer la Loi sur les Indiens pour la remplacer par les droits de la personne énoncés dans la Déclaration des Nations unies sur les droits des peuples autochtones? Ces droits incluent le droit à l'autodétermination en ce qui concerne notre développement économique, social et culturel.
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Theresa Tait Day - 13:16
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Leah Gazan (Winnipeg Centre)
2020-03-10 13:17
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I would agree. I would also mention that that particular system—that whole framework—is within the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
Je suis d'accord. Je mentionnerais également que ce système, ce cadre, se trouve dans la Déclaration des Nations unies sur les droits des peuples autochtones.
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Theresa Tait Day - 13:17
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Leah Gazan (Winnipeg Centre)
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I say this because I find that this country has a history of colonial interference that causes conflict within communities. Do you think that the government should stop interfering with this process and allow the Wet'suwet'en peoples to make decisions on their own?
I say that because I'm wondering if this would have even been brought up as a motion about the hereditary chiefs if they were the ones supporting LNG, not the Indian Act chiefs. I see that conflict occurring. It's disturbing. I want to hear your thoughts about that.
Je dis cela parce que je trouve que notre pays a une histoire d'ingérence coloniale qui cause des conflits au sein des collectivités. Pensez-vous que le gouvernement devrait cesser d'intervenir dans le processus et laisser les Wet'suwet'en prendre leurs propres décisions?
Je dis cela parce que je me demande si cette motion à propos des chefs héréditaires aurait été présentée si c'étaient eux qui avaient appuyé le projet de GNL plutôt que les chefs relevant de la Loi sur les Indiens. J'observe ce conflit. C'est troublant. J'aimerais avoir votre opinion à ce sujet.
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Theresa Tait Day - 13:18
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Leah Gazan (Winnipeg Centre)
2020-03-10 13:18
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I totally agree. I would say the same patriarchal human rights violations need to stop against indigenous women in the Indian Act.
I'm going to pass it over to my colleague, Niki Ashton.
Je suis tout à fait d'accord. Je dirais qu'il faut retirer de la Loi sur les Indiens les violations patriarcales des droits de la personne à l'endroit des femmes autochtones.
Je vais céder la parole à ma collègue, Niki Ashton.
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