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2021-06-28
Lib. (ON)
Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
2021-06-28 11:11
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Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
2021-06-28 11:11
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I call the meeting to order.
Welcome to meeting number 19 of the Board of Internal Economy of the 43rd Parliament.
This morning, we will begin with item 1, the minutes of the previous meeting.
Are there any questions or comments on that? Seeing none, we'll move on to the second item.
We will continue with item 2, business arising from the previous meeting.
Are there any comments?
Mr. Richards, go ahead.
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Blake Richards (Banff—Airdrie)
2021-06-28 11:12
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There are a couple of things I want to raise quickly here. The first one is that I noticed that the administration has put together a report for us based on the questions that I asked at the last meeting related to human resource issues that we had with losing some of the senior leadership among procedural folks. I note that we do have an item later on the agenda on this. I was going to suggest that it might be helpful for that discussion to take place perhaps without the administration staff, other than the chief human resources officer, who probably should be a part of that, and possibly the law clerk.
I know this is what's typically done when the audits are presented to the board. It might be helpful for us to follow that practice for that particular item. I was going to suggest that, if others see the benefit of that. I think it might be good to be able to have that conversation with just the board members and the one or two pieces of that from administration that would have a direct impact there.
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Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
2021-06-28 11:14
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That's a request.
Do I have unanimous consent on that?
Mrs. DeBellefeuille, do you have a comment on that?
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Claude DeBellefeuille (Salaberry—Suroît)
2021-06-28 11:14
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Yes. To answer your question, I agree with Mr. Richards' proposal. We need to have this good discussion together.
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Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
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Do we have unanimous consent?
I'm getting signals that we do. That's great.
Thank you.
Mr. Richards, go ahead.
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Blake Richards (Banff—Airdrie)
2021-06-28 11:14
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I have another one as well, Mr. Chair, if I can.
With regard to the litigation that the government has brought with you named, Mr. Chair, I thought it might be beneficial for us to have an in camera briefing, just to find out a little bit about the litigation strategy that will be followed by the House in defending themselves against the government in the Federal Court procedure. I want to throw that out as an item that we could add to the agenda.
Obviously it's timely, so I don't think it's something that we can leave for a future meeting, but I think it would be helpful for all of us to have some sort of briefing on that. I would suggest that it be in camera.
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Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
2021-06-28 11:15
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I believe that's already open and ready to go in camera. I believe we have unanimous consent to go along with that.
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Further to that, I also wanted to get.... I don't know who the appropriate person is to ask for an opinion on this, but I'm sure you can direct it to whomever it's appropriate to answer. With regard to that, obviously we're talking about a situation where it is in fact the government that is taking the House to court in that instance. Obviously, there are members of the board who are ministers in that government. I don't know, but it did occur to me that there's a possibility that there could be a conflict of interest for them to participate in those discussions. I don't know if they've personally given any thought to that, but maybe it would be good to get an opinion on whether it's appropriate for them to be a part of that discussion or not.
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Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
2021-06-28 11:16
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If it's okay with the members, maybe we can approach it once we go in camera. We'll have the House of Commons lawyer, Mr. Dufresne, comment on that and then we can make a decision.
Is that fair?
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Hon. Pablo Rodriguez (Honoré-Mercier)
2021-06-28 11:17
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Sure.
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Hon. Anthony Rota (Nipissing—Timiskaming)
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Okay. Let's go with that, then. That gives everyone some time to reflect until we get there. There are no decisions made on the spot, and we'll make sure it's the right decision to make.
Mr. Julian will be followed by Mrs. DeBellefeuille.
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Peter Julian (New Westminster—Burnaby)
2021-06-28 11:17
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Thanks, Mr. Chair.
I was going to reiterate the same comments Mr. Richards made. I agree that, as part of the in camera, we should be briefed on the court case against the House.
Thank you for that.
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Mrs. DeBellefeuille, you have the floor.
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Claude DeBellefeuille (Salaberry—Suroît)
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Mr. Chair, I am not sure whether it will be possible during this meeting, but I would like to be reassured about next fall. The parliamentary session ended with a lack of resources, particularly in terms of interpreters. I would like to be reassured that this summer and fall we will have all the resources that we need to resume our work.
We have had to cancel committee meetings in order to be able to sit in the House of Commons and hold parliamentary committee meetings at the same time. I would like to be reassured on that point, even if it does not happen in this meeting. I would like to make sure that, in the fall, we will have the number of interpreters we require to be able to do our parliamentary work, in the House, in committees and in parliamentary associations.
I don't know whether we were supposed to have news about this today. If not, I would like to see a very clear update at the next Board of Internal Economy meeting on the state of our resources and the state of the situation, which was very worrisome at the end of the session.
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