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2015-06-17
Right Hon. Stephen Harper - 14:32
NDP (QC)
Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-17 14:33 [p.15204]
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Mr. Speaker, Nigel Wright told the RCMP that he briefed the Prime Minister on the media lines for the Duffy deal. Wright said in an email that he had the “good to go from the PM”.
Why did the Prime Minister claim that he had never given Wright any instructions regarding the Duffy scandal? “Good to go” seems like a pretty clear instruction.
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Right Hon. Stephen Harper (Calgary Southwest)
2015-06-17 14:33 [p.15204]
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Mr. Speaker, as the leader of the NDP knows very well, he is quoting from an RCMP report that thoroughly examined this matter. It was given access to all documents and was very clear that I knew nothing of this particular matter, unlike him, who signed all of the papers, that took the money, inappropriately and fraudulently, out of the House of Commons, for which he will have to answer.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-17 14:34 [p.15204]
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Mr. Speaker, the question—
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Andrew Scheer - 14:34
NDP (QC)
Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-17 14:34 [p.15204]
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Mr. Speaker, the question is just that: Is the Prime Minister good to go?
Is he good to go to swear to these statements under oath on a witness stand? If the Prime Minister is called to testify in the Mike Duffy trial, will he appear, or will he hide?
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Right Hon. Stephen Harper (Calgary Southwest)
2015-06-17 14:34 [p.15204]
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Mr. Speaker, once again, as those who have investigated this have said that I am neither a participant nor a witness to any of these events, there is absolutely no reason why I would be before the court.
However, I would invite him to have the RCMP look at his files on the $400,000 he personally took and the $3 million his party took out of the House of Commons.
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NDP (QC)
Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-17 14:35 [p.15204]
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Mr. Speaker, now that we have heard the Prime Minister talk about the Liberal-Conservative kangaroo court, why do we not look at what real courts have had to say about the Conservative record.
In 2006, convicted in court of cheating in the in-and-out scandal; 2008, convicted of cheating in the Dean Del Mastro affair; 2011, convicted in court for cheating in the robocalls scandal.
The Prime Minister's team has been convicted of cheating in every single election he has won. What safeguards has he put in place to try to ensure that his team does not cheat this time around?
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CPC (AB)
Right Hon. Stephen Harper (Calgary Southwest)
2015-06-17 14:35 [p.15205]
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Mr. Speaker, here is a party that itself has been found guilty of inappropriate robocalls and has been forced to return union funds that it illegally raised, and knowingly did so, and of course, still, $2.7 million was taken out of the House of Commons by the NDP, not for any parliamentary purpose, for the use of its own party offices across the country.
This is exactly the kind of thing that happened in the sponsorship scandal, and the NDP will be held accountable.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair - 14:36
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2015-06-15
Ted Opitz - 14:16
NDP (QC)
Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-15 14:17 [p.15061]
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Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General identified 30 more senators who are guilty of fraudulent spending. However, it is important to point out that the report does not include any senators who had already paid back their fraudulent expenses before the investigation began.
How many senators did the Prime Minister's Office protect in that way by telling them to use the Duffy technique, namely, to repay their expenses before the investigation began?
How many others did the Prime Minister protect?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-15 14:18 [p.15061]
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Mr. Speaker, as members know, I have said on a number of occasions that it was the Senate that actually invited in the Auditor General to review their expenses. We expect them to work with and co-operate with that process.
At the same time, the Leader of the Opposition and 67 other members of his party owe the Canadian taxpayers $2.7 million. The Leader of the Opposition himself, personally owes $400,000 to the taxpayers of Canada. I hope he will do the right thing and repay that money.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair - 14:18
Hon. Rob Nicholson - 14:31
NDP (QC)
Ève Péclet (La Pointe-de-l'Île)
2015-06-15 14:31 [p.15063]
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Mr. Speaker, it is always a double standard with this Prime Minister.
He promised Canadians he would clean up the Senate. However, once in power, his plan to reform the Senate was quashed by the Supreme Court, and now nothing is happening. It is the status quo for the Conservatives.
Apparently the 30 Liberal and Conservative senators named in the Auditor General's report might be investigated by the RCMP. There is a real pattern of abuse in the Senate, and the Prime Minister just stands idly by.
What is he going to do? Will he take charge and clean house in the Senate once and for all?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-15 14:32 [p.15063]
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Mr. Speaker, as I already said in this question period, it was the Senate that invited in the Auditor General to review their expenses. He, of course, came forward with a report that showed some 30 senators in dispute, but at the same time, this side of the House has come forward with a report that shows some 68 members of Parliament with three times the amount. In fact, all 68 of those happen to be NDP members of Parliament. That particular member owes her constituents over $27,000, and I hope that member will do the right thing and pay her constituents back.
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Ève Péclet - 14:33
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2015-06-12
Rick Dykstra - 11:17
NDP (ON)
David Christopherson (Hamilton Centre)
2015-06-12 11:18 [p.15008]
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Mr. Speaker, in February 2013, the Prime Minister rose in this House and declared “...all senators conform to the residency requirements”.
That is not what the Auditor General found in his devastating report on Senate corruption. He found that five of the nine senators whose cases are now referred to the RCMP were not actually residents of the provinces they were appointed to represent.
Did the Prime Minister at least ask any of these senators whether they were eligible to sit in the Senate, before he appointed them?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:19 [p.15008]
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Mr. Speaker, as I have said on a number of occasions, the rules with respect to appointing senators have been clear for almost 150 years.
At the same time, it is worth highlighting that in 2013 when we were starting to eliminate direct voter subsidies, taxpayer subsidies for political parties, the New Democrats were in the middle of a scam to still get voter subsidies. Unfortunately, they did that by breaking the rules of this House. They cheated in order to help their political party. That is against the rules. That is not why taxpayers send us money. The New Democrats owe $2.7 million, and they might as well do the right thing and just pay it back.
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David Christopherson (Hamilton Centre)
2015-06-12 11:20 [p.15008]
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Mr. Speaker, that is more nonsense from that member.
Clearly, the Prime Minister never even tried to confirm that his appointees were actually eligible. No wonder the senators think they can get away with anything, and the secrecy continues. When asked about its new appeals process, the Senate replied “...we do not disclose information about legal contracts”. The entire process will be shrouded in secrecy. This is accountability, Conservative style.
Do the Conservatives agree that a secretive internal board is the right place to dispute the evidence-based findings of our Auditor General?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:20 [p.15008]
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Mr. Speaker, as members know, it was the Senate that invited the Auditor General in to review its expenses, and it is the Senate that should respond to that report. We expect that the senators will abide by the recommendations.
At the same time, we know it is very public that the New Democrats owe the Canadian taxpayers $2.7 million for illegal offices. That is three times as much as has been identified by the Auditor General with respect to the senators' expenses. However, unlike some of the senators, the New Democrats are refusing to pay back the $2.7 million they owe. The member for Hochelaga owes—
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Barry Devolin - 11:21
NDP (NS)
Megan Leslie (Halifax)
2015-06-12 11:21 [p.15009]
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has to tell us what he thinks about the Senate scandal, because rather than apologizing, senators are continuing to defend the indefensible. Senators are going to decide for themselves, in secret, whether their personal expenses for fishing trips or golf games are legitimate.
Does the Prime Minister agree with this secretive process in the Senate?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:21 [p.15009]
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Mr. Speaker, that is absolutely not correct, and the member knows that is not correct.
The Senate has invited in former justice Ian Binnie, and we support that process. Again, it was the Senate that invited in the Auditor General to review its expenses in the first place.
At the same time, Canadians do not differentiate. When parliamentarians owe them money, they want it back. That is why it is important that the 68 members of the NDP caucus who have been identified as owing $2.7 million to the Canadian people ought to pay it back. It is very clear that they need to pay back the money they owe.
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Megan Leslie - 11:22
Cathy McLeod - 11:32
NDP (NL)
Jack Harris (St. John's East)
2015-06-12 11:33 [p.15011]
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Mr. Speaker, the Senate is a bastion of entitlement, yet the Conservatives have thrown up their hands and given up. The change is not only possible, it is absolutely necessary. Senators have invented a secret process for disputing the Auditor General's findings, and days after the Senate Speaker promised a new age of openness, he has gone to court to block the release of a potentially embarrassing internal report on residency.
Did anyone in the Prime Minister's office speak to anyone in the Senate about this latest attempt to cover up an embarrassing Senate report?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:34 [p.15011]
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Mr. Speaker, I have already answered that. As members know, it was the Senate that invited the Auditor General to review its expenses, and we expect senators to assist in the process.
At the same time, this member could help us out by turning around and looking at his colleagues and asking the 68 of them who owe taxpayers $2.7 million to repay that money to the taxpayers. It is absolutely unacceptable that the NDP owes Canadian taxpayers $2.7 million for illegal partisan offices and are refusing to pay it back. They ought to do the right thing and pay back the taxpayers.
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NDP (NL)
Jack Harris (St. John's East)
2015-06-12 11:34 [p.15011]
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Mr. Speaker, after promising to bring change to the Senate, the parliamentary secretary now clearly thinks it is not a priority. That is not acceptable to Canadians. When asked about the use of public funds to attend his brother-in-law's funeral, one senator replied that he brought “the dignity of the office”. The Auditor General is calling for transformational change, yet the Senate refuses even to confirm how much it is paying arbitrator Ian Binnie.
Why have the Conservatives abandoned their principles and refused to demand accountability from the Senate?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:35 [p.15011]
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Mr. Speaker, it is just the opposite. The Senate invited in the Auditor General to review their expenses. A report has been tabled, and we expect the Senate to work with the Auditor General to implement the recommendations of that report, but what is also on the table is the fact of finding that 68 members of that caucus owe $2.7 million to the people of Canada, and they refuse to pay it back.
The member for Louis-Hébert owes $31,888 and refuses to pay it back. The member for Gatineau owes $24,498 and refuses to pay it back. The member for Hochelaga owes $24,000—
Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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Barry Devolin - 11:35
NDP (QC)
Rosane Doré Lefebvre (Alfred-Pellan)
2015-06-12 11:35 [p.15011]
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Mr. Speaker, we still do not know if the Prime Minister looked into where senators reside before appointing them.
Senators' extravagant expenses are downright shameful. They treated themselves to fishing trips, personal trips for themselves and their spouses, rounds of golf and tickets to hockey games, all on the taxpayer's dime and with impunity. It is high time we got rid of this archaic institution. Most Quebeckers no longer want it.
Will the Conservatives finally stop defending the status quo?
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CPC (ON)
Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:36 [p.15012]
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Mr. Speaker, it is just the opposite. At the same time as the Auditor General was revealing the expenses of senators, there was a report issued with respect to members of Parliament. What that report found was that 68 members of Parliament owed $2.7 million to the taxpayer. All of those 68 members happen to be sitting in the NDP caucus.
At a time when we were bringing in accountability to the House of Commons, they were finding a way to cheat and rip off the Canadian taxpayer and are now refusing to pay it back. They should pay back the $2.7 million they owe Canadians. It is the right thing to do, and they ought to do it.
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Rosane Doré Lefebvre (Alfred-Pellan)
2015-06-12 11:37 [p.15012]
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister is still defending the indefensible.
Worse still, rather than apologize for their unacceptable behaviour, Liberal senators and those who were appointed by the Prime Minister are rubbing salt in the wound. Now they want to to be their own judge and jury behind closed doors. Seriously, what a lot of nerve.
Why is the Prime Minister allowing these internal, secret, backroom games? Why is he not getting on board with the NDP's proposal to eliminate all of these secret House and Senate committees and give the people the transparency they deserve once and for all?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:37 [p.15012]
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Mr. Speaker, I will not defend anybody who deliberately misuses taxpayer dollars. I certainly will not get up in the chamber and defend that. That is why I think like Canadians think. I do not differentiate. Whether it is a senator or a member of Parliament, if they deliberately misuse taxpayer dollars, they ought to pay it back.
New Democrats owe three times as much as the Auditor General has identified in the Senate. They owe $2.7 million. The Leader of the Opposition owes $400,000 to the taxpayers of Canada, and he refuses to pay it back. He ought to do the right thing and pay it back.
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Peter Julian (Burnaby—New Westminster)
2015-06-12 11:38 [p.15012]
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Mr. Speaker, as the scandals in the Senate have exploded, the Conservatives have taken to hiding the Prime Minister. Instead of answering questions, they bring on the very sad theatrics of the member for Oak Ridges—Markham. We remember that he tearfully apologized to the House for his antics. He promised to change his ways, and then he broke his promise. Every time he speaks, he loses more support for Conservatives. This morning, Conservatives hit historical lows. Keep up the good work.
New Democrats believe we can and must bring change to the Senate. Why do Conservatives lack the political will to scrap the Senate, and why will they not listen to Canadians?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-12 11:39 [p.15012]
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians have turned their backs on that party for 16 straight elections. They have never, ever been given the confidence of Canadians to sit on this side of the House. I am very proud of the fact that Canadians have given us the confidence to sit on this side of the House, and I will continue to work every day to do that.
This is a member who admits that he actually owes money, $189,000. He is refusing to pay it back. He might think that is funny; Canadians do not. They want the money back. Pay them $189,000.
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Hon. Stéphane Dion - 11:39
Peter Braid - 11:43
NDP (BC)
Kennedy Stewart (Burnaby—Douglas)
2015-06-12 11:43 [p.15013]
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Mr. Speaker, in 2012, the former minister of citizenship proclaimed with great fanfare that the government was going to revoke the citizenship of thousands of fraudsters.
Three years later, the government has acted on only 81 cases, and the department has quietly admitted that many of the people it was pursuing were innocent. This is a consistent pattern from the Conservatives and especially that minister, exaggerating threats to score political points.
Why do the Conservatives not, for once, put partisanship aside and focus on finally eliminating huge immigration backlogs?
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Hon. Chris Alexander (Ajax—Pickering)
2015-06-12 11:44 [p.15013]
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Mr. Speaker, that is a strange question coming from that party, which opposed our measures to improve the integrity and strengthen the value of Canadian citizenship.
We have taken action to revoke citizenship for misrepresentation, for fraud, based on due process, based on investigations under the law, and we will continue to do so.
What is scandalous is that that party continues to oppose the idea that dual nationals should have their citizenship revoked. That provision is now enforced, thanks to this government, when they are convicted for terrorism.
That is what Canadians want, and the NDP has always refused it.
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Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (Pierrefonds—Dollard)
2015-06-12 11:44 [p.15013]
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Mr. Speaker, the minister is all talk and no action: in 2012, he was extremely proud to announce that his government was going to revoke the citizenship of 3,000 people who allegedly obtained it under false pretenses. Three years later, 81 people saw their citizenship revoked. Again, the Conservatives chose to play politics on the backs of new arrivals by accusing them of fraud and by inflating the figures. What is more, the processing of these cases has dragged on. Some files have not moved in three years.
Will the minister apologize to the Canadians he unjustly accused of fraud and will he fast-track these files?
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Hon. Chris Alexander (Ajax—Pickering)
2015-06-12 11:45 [p.15013]
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Mr. Speaker, there are still thousands of investigations under way, hundreds of serious cases where revocation is still on the table, and, yes, dozens of cases where we revoked citizenship on account of fraud. It is no thanks to the support of the NDP that this was possible, quite the contrary. The NDP insisted on opposing all our measures to enhance the integrity and value of Canadian citizenship, including by revoking citizenship from dual nationals who are convicted of terrorism. It is scandalous.
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Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe - 11:46
Mark Strahl - 12:07
GP (ON)
Bruce Hyer (Thunder Bay—Superior North)
2015-06-12 12:08 [p.15017]
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Mr. Speaker, I have petitions from many Canadians who are concerned about the election fraud that occurred in the 2011 federal election.
The petitioners feel that due to fraudulent practices, including in Thunder Bay—Superior North, election results were affected and the democratic right of Canadians to vote was suppressed.
They call upon the House, the Government of Canada and the Prime Minister to call an independent, fully empowered royal commission into election fraud, alongside the Elections Canada investigation, to determine whether the Elections Canada Act and any other Canadian laws were violated during the 2011 federal election campaign, and to protect the integrity of our electoral system.
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2015-06-11
Ted Falk - 14:17
NDP (NS)
Megan Leslie (Halifax)
2015-06-11 14:18 [p.14962]
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians have the right to know what the Prime Minister knew about the Senate expense scandal. Instead, the Prime Minister is extending his trip to Europe.
Canadians are sick of seeing their tax dollars wasted. Are we to believe that the Prime Minister would rather defend the status quo in the Senate than answer Canadians’ questions?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:19 [p.14962]
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Mr. Speaker, as you know, it was the Senate that invited the Auditor General in. He has tabled his report, and of course, we expect the Senate to listen to those recommendations and implement them.
As we all know, the status quo in the Senate is not acceptable. That is why we have fought to bring openness and transparency into the Senate. The Supreme Court, in its wisdom, has suggested that we need the unanimous support of the provinces to move forward with any reform. We anxiously await that.
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Megan Leslie (Halifax)
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Mr. Speaker, every time we learn more about Conservative corruption in the Senate, the Prime Minister suddenly finds urgent business to do on another continent. When this scandal first broke, he had urgent business in Peru. When the RCMP released the documents about the cover-up, suddenly he had to rush off to Europe.
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Megan Leslie (Halifax)
2015-06-11 14:20 [p.14962]
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Mr. Speaker, when the RCMP released documents about the cover-up, suddenly the Prime Minister had to rush off to Europe.
Now we have a devastating report about corruption in the Senate, and the Prime Minister once again is not answering questions. Why is it that whenever there is a scandal, the Prime Minister hops on a plane?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:20 [p.14962]
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Mr. Speaker, that question just highlights that it is not only the Liberals who are incapable of ever governing this country again and that their leader is in over his head; it is the entire NDP caucus.
It is called a G7, where the world's most powerful nations come together to talk about the economy, come together to talk about security. Our Prime Minister was there leading the G7 with respect to improving the economy and fighting ISIL terrorism. We are proud of that, and we will continue to do that job on behalf of Canadians.
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Megan Leslie (Halifax)
2015-06-11 14:21 [p.14962]
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians really marvel at how the member evades questions. Make no mistake, accountability is coming for the Conservatives.
While the Prime Minister's parliamentary secretary keeps trying to distract us with make-believe, we are asking questions about real abuse of trust and public money being misspent, and the Prime Minister will not answer a single question.
After promising change, why have the Conservatives now given up on doing anything to clean up the culture of corruption, waste, and entitlement in the Senate?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:21 [p.14962]
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Mr. Speaker, as I just said, obviously the status quo in the Senate is unacceptable. That is why the Auditor General came in and examined the expenses. He submitted a report, and the Senate is taking action on that.
As I said yesterday, Canadians do not differentiate. When parliamentarians abuse their money deliberately, they want some recourse. There are 68 members of that caucus who owe three times as much as the Auditor General identified in the Senate report. It is absolutely inappropriate. Starting with their leader, who owes $400,000, they should repay the money they owe Canadians.
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Irene Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe)
2015-06-11 14:29 [p.14964]
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Mr. Speaker, unlike the government's tales of fanciful make-believe, this week the Auditor General reported on real misspending, senators routinely travelling for personal business and billing taxpayers.
In one case, the Auditor General found a senator's spouse spent over $10,000 on her own personal business, and the senator charged that to the public, too.
How can the members stand here and continue to defend this behaviour? It just defies logic.
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:30 [p.14964]
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Mr. Speaker, the absolute gall of that member, sitting in that caucus, asking that question.
We have said right from the beginning that parliamentarians who deliberately misspend taxpayer dollars ought to do the first thing and pay it back. If it is deliberate, the courts will take action and they will suffer the consequences.
There are 68 members of that caucus who have spend three times as much as the Auditor General found in the Senate. They owe the taxpayer $2.7 million. Their own leader, who hatched this scheme, owes the taxpayers $400,000 and is refusing to pay it back.
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Irene Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe)
2015-06-11 14:31 [p.14964]
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Mr. Speaker, it is more and more fantasy.
Just like the offending senators, Conservatives are completely unrepentant. Conservatives promised to bring accountability and change, but instead they delivered expense claims to meet their tailors and bills for their fishing trips. Senators named in the report for their dubious claims actually set up an appeals process to dispute the Auditor General's findings.
After promising to bring change to the Senate, how can that member stand here and defend the status quo?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:31 [p.14964]
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians do not think it is fanciful to want their $2.7 million back from the NDP. They work very hard for the money they send here, and they want the 68 members of that caucus to send it back.
It is not a fantasy that the member for Compton—Stanstead owes $142,000. The NDP needs to look at itself, look at Canadians and just pay back the $2.7 million that it owes, and do it now.
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Ève Péclet (La Pointe-de-l'Île)
2015-06-11 14:32 [p.14964]
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister, their leader, promised loud and clear that he would clean up the Senate. It was even part of his campaign platform. However, the reality is that today the Senate is still the same corrupt institution.
Fourteen of the senators who the Auditor General found were involved in illegal spending are now refusing to pay back the money that they spent playing golf and attending hockey games, money that belongs to Canadians. That is not all. They are even going to challenge the Auditor General's recommendations.
Does the Prime Minister agree with the senators who are refusing to pay back their expenses or does he accept the Auditor General's recommendations?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:33 [p.14965]
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Mr. Speaker, as we said, it was the Senate that invited in the Auditor General to examine their expenses. He has tabled a report. As we have said all along, we expect that the senators will work with the Auditor General.
At the same time as the Auditor General found 30 senators who have some dilemmas with their expenses, the House has found that some 68 members of Parliament have problems with their expenses. All 68 of them happen to be NDP members of Parliament. The member who asked the question owes the taxpayers of her riding over $27,000, and she is refusing to pay it back.
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Ève Péclet (La Pointe-de-l'Île)
2015-06-11 14:33 [p.14965]
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Mr. Speaker, come on. It is as though the Prime Minister were allowing a minister whose department was investigated by the Auditor General to dispute the recommendations and refuse to implement them. That does not make any sense and it would never be acceptable.
However, the Conservatives do not seem to have a problem with senators appointed by the Prime Minister unscrupulously charging Canadians for their personal travel.
Will the Prime Minister finally set up an independent oversight body—
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:34 [p.14965]
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Mr. Speaker, that is a member who on August 22 submitted forms to the House of Commons suggesting that she was going to hire somebody to work out of an office in Ottawa. On September 22, the member confirmed again that this office would be in Ottawa, against the rules of the House, against the wishes of taxpayers. The member then funnelled money out of her constituency to an illegal office in Montreal, along with 67 other members of that party. They should do the right thing and pay back the $2.7 million that they owe taxpayers.
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Peter Julian (Burnaby—New Westminster)
2015-06-11 14:35 [p.14965]
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Mr. Speaker, there have been some excellent questions, but the answers have been ridiculous. That is quite clear.
Members will recall that the Prime Minister promised to put an end to corruption and clean up the Senate. He clearly did not keep his promise. According to the Auditor General's report, the Senate is more than dysfunctional, and the problem of illegal expenses is widespread. Canadians are wondering what happened to the Conservatives' promises.
Why do the Conservatives no longer believe in change?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:35 [p.14965]
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Mr. Speaker, that is curious coming from that member because we were both on a panel not long ago and he was asked how he would pay back the $170,000 he owed the taxpayers. The member said, “No no no. Well, first off, Peter, those figures, they go for the previous [person] in the office”, mainly the member for Skeena—Bulkley Valley. The member admitted there was a debt and said that it was the member for Skeena—Bulkley Valley's debt.
We know the New Democrats tried to rip taxpayers off by only paying back 10% of the debt. They should pay back the $2.7 million they owe.
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Peter Julian (Burnaby—New Westminster)
2015-06-11 14:36 [p.14965]
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Here is another fairytale, Mr. Speaker. Once upon a time the Conservatives came to Ottawa and promised so much before they broke all of those promises. They promised to stand up for everyday Canadians to end entitlements, and to fight against waste and corruption. They were going to clean up this place, and a big part of that was making changes to the Senate. Remember the triple-E Senate? That was then and this is now.
Now the Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister is reduced to arguing that changing the Senate just is not possible. What has changed? Why did these Conservatives give up all that they stood for? Why have they failed—
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-11 14:37 [p.14965]
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Mr. Speaker, that gentleman just called the words that I quoted “another fairytale”. Unfortunately for him they are his words. These are the things that he said while he was throwing the member for Skeena—Bulkley Valley under the bus. He admitted that there was $189,000 debt, but it was not his, it was the previous occupant of the House leader's office. It was the member for Skeena—Bulkley Valley's debt.
There is one taxpayer. You owe them $2.7 million. Pay it back.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-10 14:21 [p.14868]
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Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General has referred nine more senators to the RCMP. There are 34 senators with illegal expenses, with 13 charged, under investigation or on trial for fraud, many appointed by the current Prime Minister: six Conservatives, seven Liberals.
The Prime Minister used to rail against this type of ingrained institutional corruption. What has happened to the Prime Minister's principles?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-10 14:22 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, as I said yesterday, it was the Senate that invited the Auditor General to examine senatorial expenses. As we know, the Auditor General has highlighted some 30 senators who have some issues with expenses.
At the same time, the House administration has identified some 68 members of the NDP caucus who have issues with respect to their expenses. The Auditor General identified a little less than $1 million in the Senate.
The House administration has identified that NDP members owe $2.7 million. The leader of the opposition himself owes $400,000. I certainly hope he will do the right thing and repay that money as well.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-10 14:22 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, I never thought I would be nostalgic for Dean Del Mastro.
These are the Prime Minister's very own nominations. He owns them.
The Auditor General found that his senators were charging for everything from $200 for a hockey game to over $11,000 in trips to play golf, visit their tailor or go fishing.
Are Canadians supposed to be glad that they did not take a government helicopter, like the Minister of Justice did on his fishing trip?
Will the Prime Minister stand up, assume his responsibility and answer for the actions of the people that he named? He is the only person responsible here.
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-10 14:23 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, it was the Senate that invited the Auditor General and we welcome the report of the Auditor General.
At the same time, Canadians do not differentiate. When elected officials, or any parliamentarians, have issues with expenses, they expect them to pay them back. That is why the leader of the opposition should pay back the $400,000 that he owes as part of a $2.7 million scheme that he hatched in his office to take money away from ridings and funnel it to a partisan office in Montreal.
The leader of the opposition would be well-advised to take care and watch out for his ever-growing proboscis as he climbs down off of his high horse.
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-10 14:24 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, Marjory LeBreton, the former leader of the Conservative government in the Senate, had to resign—brace yourselves—for altering the Duffy report in response to orders from the Prime Minister's Office.
Her replacement, Claude Carignan, also chosen by the Prime Minister, has now also been singled out by the Auditor General for inappropriate expenses. The Prime Minister's judgment is in question here.
Does the Prime Minister still have confidence in his leader in the Senate? Why is Claude Carignan still a member of the Conservative government?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-10 14:25 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, it was the Senate that invited the Auditor General to review its expenses. The Auditor General presented a report yesterday and we expect that all senators will co-operate with that report.
At the same time, we know that there are some 68 members of the NDP caucus who owe taxpayers $2.7 million. For instance, the member for Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher owes $14,911 and is refusing to pay it back. The member for Scarborough Southwest owes $141,000. The member for Parkdale—High Park owes over $1,000. The member for Vaudreuil-Soulanges owes $30,740. The member for Laval owes—
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Hon. Thomas Mulcair (Outremont)
2015-06-10 14:25 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, we must not forget that the expense audit does not include the senators who repaid their fraudulent expenses before June 2013.
Another person appointed by the Prime Minister, Carolyn Stewart Olsen, who was involved in the attempts to cover up the Mike Duffy scandal, said that she repaid her fraudulent expenses in order to escape the audit and avoid getting caught.
How many other senators appointed by the Prime Minister used this scheme to cover up and conceal their fraudulent expenses before the audit even started?
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Paul Calandra (Oak Ridges—Markham)
2015-06-10 14:26 [p.14869]
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Mr. Speaker, we trust the work of the Auditor General. He presented a number of recommendations. We hope, and of course insist, that all of the senators follow the process and work with the Auditor General.
Again, the Leader of the Opposition seems to think that Canadians look at things differently when there are 68 members of the NDP caucus who were identified for misusing $2.7 million of taxpayer resources. The Leader of the Opposition himself sits in this place owing the taxpayers $400,000 as part of a $2.7 million scheme that the New Democrats all owe the taxpayers. They should do the right thing and pay it back.
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Irene Mathyssen (London—Fanshawe)
2015-06-10 14:32 [p.14870]
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Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General's report stated oversight, accountability and transparency of senators' expenses--
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