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View Louise Chabot Profile
BQ (QC)
Mr. Duclos, may I remind you that I'm happy to continue discussing this with you.
Now I'm going to talk about Phoenix.
Phoenix has been the central issue for our fellow citizens since we took up our duties as members. The compensation granted under the agreements was subjected to tax. The employees' union accuses you of not forwarding the necessary documents to the Canada Revenue Agency to prevent employees' compensation from being taxed. Why haven't you done that? How much money do you expect to recover by taxing that compensation?
View Jean-Yves Duclos Profile
Lib. (QC)
Once again, thank you for that question, Ms. Chabot.
It's important for you to be aware of two significant points about Phoenix.
The first one, which you should absolutely keep in mind and repeat whenever possible, is that it's unacceptable for workers not to be paid properly and on time for services rendered, particularly within the Canadian government. That's why we've been working hard for several years to correct this situation with the help of certain members of your committee.
Second, those delays and payment improprieties caused economic, personal and emotional harm, including stress and anxiety. Consequently, it was essential that we work with the unions, as we did, to pay compensation. We're in the process of paying that compensation to employees, including former public service employees, who suffered harm caused by the Phoenix system.
View Louise Chabot Profile
BQ (QC)
We know that compensation is partly intended to address moral injury. We still don't understand why those amounts are being taxed.
How much money do you expect to recover by taxing the compensation payable under those agreements?
View Jean-Yves Duclos Profile
Lib. (QC)
You'll have to contact the Canada Revenue Agency regarding the tax treatment of that compensation. You may also refer to clause 18 of the agreement signed with the public service unions for the information the Canada Revenue Agency used to reach its decision. It was made public some time ago.
View Matthew Green Profile
NDP (ON)
Thank you.
My constituents in Hamilton Centre are paying very close attention to the ongoing proceedings as they relate to residential schools and the responsibilities of Crown-Indigenous Relations to indigenous and first nations communities across the country.
I note that Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs is requesting $610 million under vote 1a for the Federal Indian Day Schools Settlement Agreement, which includes compensation for persons who attended a federally established, funded, controlled and operated Indian day school during the period from January 1, 1920, until its closure or transfer from Canada's control.
Mr. Chair, through you, how many people do you expect to be compensated through the Federal Indian Day Schools Settlement Agreement?
View Jean-Yves Duclos Profile
Lib. (QC)
Thank you, Matthew. I'm always happy and privileged to be in your virtual company.
I would say that obviously this has been a top concern of my colleagues Minister Bennett and Minister Miller. For the precise link between the estimates process and those investments and actions, let me turn to Glenn Purves, who is most able to answer.
Glenn Purves
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Glenn Purves
2021-06-16 16:40
Thank you, Mr. Green.
You wanted to know effectively how many claims have been received and how many....
As of January 27 of this year, over 98,000 claims have been received and more than 48,000 survivors have received payments for individual compensation under the settlement.
View Matthew Green Profile
NDP (ON)
Thank you.
As a follow-up to that, what is the deadline, if any, for people to apply for compensation?
Glenn Purves
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Glenn Purves
2021-06-16 16:40
We would have to follow up with the department on that one. Unless I can find it somewhere, I don't have that answer.
View Louise Chabot Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to comment first of all about how fascinating I find all the Treasury Board President's answers about a draft bill, after being unable to come up with numbers in response to the questions I asked a while ago about naval strategy, but what can you do.
I will therefore ask the President of the Treasury Board a question about compensation in connection with the Phoenix pay system.
We know that the Treasury Board Secretariat asked for $7 million under vote 10a, to compensate former employees for damages caused by the Phoenix pay system. Agreements were reached in 2019 and compensation is now being paid. There were other agreements in 2020, and people will be able to submit claims for compensation beginning in the fall, I believe.
Have you planned for additional funds to pay compensation owing to former employees and retirees who were affected by Phoenix pay system problems?
View Jean-Yves Duclos Profile
Lib. (QC)
Thank you for the question.
To begin with, I can speak more openly about the Official Languages Act because I am a signatory to the Cabinet memorandum that led to the modernization of this act. Not only that, but the Treasury Board is very much involved, as was mentioned.
As for the Phoenix pay system, as you noted, two agreements were signed, one in June 2019 and the other in the fall of 2020. That's what led the Treasury Board Secretariat to introduce the measures needed to pay compensation.
I'm going to ask Ms. Cahill to give you the details on payment of this compensation.
View Louise Chabot Profile
BQ (QC)
Mr. Duclos, I'd just like you to tell me whether, to your knowledge, the Treasury Board Secretariat is going to request additional funds to respond to all these compensation claims.
Karen Cahill
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Karen Cahill
2021-06-16 16:58
Thank you for your question.
Under the Phoenix agreements, current funding covers the two existing agreements. We are still working with the bargaining agents on the damages caused by the Phoenix pay system.
I can't tell you yet whether we're going to have to request more funds. However, those that we have received and those that came under vote 10a, as you mentioned, cover the current agreements.
View Louise Chabot Profile
BQ (QC)
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I agree with the last part of Mr. MacKinnon's comments. Public service employees definitely deserve to be congratulated on their resilience and their work throughout the period we have just lived through.
The other comments from my colleague will not really prevent me from asking questions. If we occasionally happen to address a question to the wrong department, it's certainly not meant to be devious, but rather intended to get some answers.
My question is a follow-up to one that I asked the President of the Treasury Board earlier, about the $7 million to pay compensation to former employees. You replied that for the time being, there was enough. That's what I understood.
Can you tell us how many employees covered in these agreements will receive compensation through these funds?
Could you also give us a breakdown for the 2019 and 2020 agreements?
And lastly, how many people will still have to be compensated?
Karen Cahill
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Karen Cahill
2021-06-16 17:27
Thank you for your question.
To begin with the 2019 agreements, we had estimated that approximately 17,000 former employees or public service retirees would request damages claims under 1B of the agreement. To date, approximately 9,000 have done so.
For the 2020 agreement with the Public Service Alliance of Canada, we estimate that 54,000 former employees or retired employees would make a claim. However, as you know, we haven't yet set the process in motion, so it's difficult to come up with a number.
It's important to note that claims under these agreements are on a voluntary basis. There are no automatic reimbursements. People need to file a claim. We are trying to contact as many former employees and retired employees as possible.
The $7 million is not the only amount that has been set aside. Funds have been earmarked in other supplementary estimates or in the main estimates. Based on an average of Technical difficulty per employee, we estimate that 5,000 employees would be covered by this amount.
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