Before I turn to Mr. Kelly, this is just on this discussion on the message getting to people. The experts or bureaucracies are talking to themselves. I talk to farmers and fishermen a lot. I campaigned a campaign on the green shift. I can tell you it wasn't a pleasant campaign. They're very worried, even though they're exempted, at least in the federal legislation on fuel, which is their biggest cost.
By the same token, I can tell you from my experience in Prince Edward Island. Maritime Electric is through the province...30% of the energy comes from windmills. When that first started, even though everyone was complaining about the cost of electricity, you had the option of buying the more expensive electricity, and I did myself. A lot of farmers went to the more expensive electricity, even though they were complaining about the price of electricity, because it was clean.
Part of the problem here is that the public really doesn't trust governments to be revenue neutral. It came up in the discussion previously. The public doesn't believe us when we say that this carbon pricing will be revenue neutral.
How do we change that, or can we?
Does anybody have any brilliant answers?